One for the good guys

[Bob M]

Jode....States can ALWAYS have more restrictive regulations than those set by the Fed's....never less restrictive but they are free to do whatever they want when its "less than" the Federal allowed......N.Y. has for whatever reason chosen to limit to 25......makes no sense under a "conservation order" where you want to increase harvest but wouldn't be the first, or the last, rule that doesn't make sense...


Bob..no argument in Habitat Change being a big part of the decrease.....and I wouldn't argue against the Snows and Cacklers being at least part of the reason for that.....what would be interesting to know though is "has IN FACT" the population of Snow's and Cacklers in that prime breeding colony increased, and how much, over the 35 years or are there "other, less obvious reasons" for the change in the habitat?.......


When you ad I first started taking about this and I heard "virtually zero recruitment for the last three or so years" my thought was far different than seeing a decline from 4,000 plus nests to less than 45 in a traditional nesting area....one can be seen as a short term problem like happens in the Arctic frequently....the other is far more insidious and isn't likely to "fix itself"......why couldn't this happen to Starlings instead of Brant?.....


Steve

100% agree

 

[Brad Bortner]

Yes, greater snows are overabundant; yes, there is no Federal bag limit during the conservation season; yes, states can be more restrictive than federal frameworks but not more liberal; yes, Pennsylvania selected a more restrictive bag limit; yes, they violated the state law and each was fined for shoot 48 birds over the daily bag limit; yes, one guy did not have a hunting license and had 73 geese so he was fined for both violations; yes, brant, snow geese and cacklers interact on the breeding grounds where they have combined colonies; I'd have to check with researchers about other brant colonies on Bylot and Baffin Islands to see if the species interact.