Rail Skiff Build

I think that lumber requirements are one thing missed in boatbuilding. Getting air dried lumber stock means buying your own from a small bandsaw operator and waiting for it to dry. That means at least a year wait before beginning building.
Agreed, but I'm kind of impatient. By this time next year I'll complete a couple of boats. :) It all boils down to how much juice I feel like pouring into the next one. If I can't get top quality material, I may build what I'll call an "experimental", using all plywood frames and strips. Never tried it that way.
 
Launch day is looking like Saturday, or Sunday if something important like fishing or shooting comes up Saturday. I think I mentioned that I ordered a multi-piece pole for ease of transport, as the pole is over 17'. It arrived yesterday, it's a Carbon Marine "Traveller". I haven't weighed it yet, but would estimate it at around 5 lbs. Not the lightest pole in the world because of the SS fittings, but I'm pretty happy with it. I'm curious how well the foot will work in our marshes. It'll probably be OK since our bottoms are firm for the most part.

This afternoon or tomorrow the boat will be flipped upright and get a final paint touch up in preparation for the maiden voyage. I also need to remember to install the bow eye, it's all pre-drilled and fitted. The little voice in my head keeps whispering oar lock holders, so maybe-just maybe. :unsure:

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Still messing with a stool, I can't find a stool that I like. I have an old bar chair from our place in Maine that may work as a last resort, but it seems likely the first trips will see the sport in a folding directors chair.
 
Launch day is looking like Saturday, or Sunday if something important like fishing or shooting comes up Saturday. I think I mentioned that I ordered a multi-piece pole for ease of transport, as the pole is over 17'. It arrived yesterday, it's a Carbon Marine "Traveller". I haven't weighed it yet, but would estimate it at around 5 lbs. Not the lightest pole in the world because of the SS fittings, but I'm pretty happy with it. I'm curious how well the foot will work in our marshes. It'll probably be OK since our bottoms are firm for the most part.

This afternoon or tomorrow the boat will be flipped upright and get a final paint touch up in preparation for the maiden voyage. I also need to remember to install the bow eye, it's all pre-drilled and fitted. The little voice in my head keeps whispering oar lock holders, so maybe-just maybe. :unsure:

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Still messing with a stool, I can't find a stool that I like. I have an old bar chair from our place in Maine that may work as a last resort, but it seems likely the first trips will see the sport in a folding directors chair.
Boy that's a great push pole! Gotta love the ease of transport
 
It's great only having to haul 4 short pieces. I'm envisioning a carrier, possibly a 4' piece of 4" PVC with one end cap. I'm looking forward to giving it a try. Messing with it in the yard, it feels exceptionally stiff because of the fittings.
Is that a pole you made, or one on the market? What's it made of? I've just figured a simple bungee-based storage system to keep my 12' ash pole on the boat when I haul it, out of the way while under power, and ready to hand when needed. But always interested in other options. Great debate in the canoe world over ash (heavy but strong, not very flexible) vs. spruce (light, springy, but easy to break) vs. aluminum (universally hated by traditionalists, but preferred by many who consistently win poling races). I've even heard of people using fiberglass pole vaulting poles, but never seen it done.
 
Jeff,

It's a Carbon Marine "Traveller" model, a composite pole with SS fittings. It's pretty much the lightest pole I've had, but the comparable one piece models are a pound or so less. I need to put it on the scale, best guess is somewhere in the 5 lbs range.

I have used pole vault poles, we got throwaways in the early 80's from the local schools. Once they show signs of wear the kids aren't allowed to vault with them. The ones we had were roughly 11 or 12 feet and heavier than this new 17'+ pole but still lighter than wood. As I recall they were tapered, the big end goes in the water. Pretty sure they were fiberglass, I would think they're space age composite now.
 
Saturday was launch day. The boat fits comfortably in the back of the F250, no thanks to any planning on my part. Better to be lucky than good.

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It floats even with me in the stern. We tried the bar chair, which has a swivel feature which I think would be fun to shoot from. It's quite heavy so the jury is out. The pole is 17'+ and is not on the bottom of the creek, which is why we need longer poles compared to some.

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And got a photo of the brand under the poling stand. It burned the cedar so much I couldn't sand it out as can be done on hardwoods. Needs a little paint touchup. It's more legible than in the photo, it should inform the curious.

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Saturday was launch day. The boat fits comfortably in the back of the F250, no thanks to any planning on my part. Better to be lucky than good.

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It floats even with me in the stern. We tried the bar chair, which has a swivel feature which I think would be fun to shoot from. It's quite heavy so the jury is out. The pole is 17'+ and is not on the bottom of the creek, which is why we need longer poles compared to some.

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And got a photo of the brand under the poling stand. It burned the cedar so much I couldn't sand it out as can be done on hardwoods. Needs a little paint touchup. It's more legible than in the photo, it should inform the curious.

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Looks great on the water
 
Saturday was launch day. The boat fits comfortably in the back of the F250, no thanks to any planning on my part. Better to be lucky than good.

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It floats even with me in the stern. We tried the bar chair, which has a swivel feature which I think would be fun to shoot from. It's quite heavy so the jury is out. The pole is 17'+ and is not on the bottom of the creek, which is why we need longer poles compared to some.

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And got a photo of the brand under the poling stand. It burned the cedar so much I couldn't sand it out as can be done on hardwoods. Needs a little paint touchup. It's more legible than in the photo, it should inform the curious.

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One thing I found to be helpful as far as seating goes.

You either want to be braced high up, like the gunnels. Some sort of suspended chair running from edge to edge.

Or if it's on the floor you want to have it secured tightly somehow. ( Screwed to your removable flooring etc.)

I've had one or two gunners swing too far on a bird, lose their balance and you know the rest of the story!
 
One thing I found to be helpful as far as seating goes.

You either want to be braced high up, like the gunnels. Some sort of suspended chair running from edge to edge.

Or if it's on the floor you want to have it secured tightly somehow. ( Screwed to your removable flooring etc.)

I've had one or two gunners swing too far on a bird, lose their balance and you know the rest of the story!
Looking good. Thinking through Jode's thoughts, I'd look at a gunwale to gunwale bench seat somwhere forward of mid-ship. A tall stool with a half-standing gunner seems like an accident waiting to happen, as does a stool that can rotate and let gunner swing towards the stern.
 
Congratulations. You look secure on your feet so I take it the stability is fine for gunning. When does your rail season open?
Thanks. It's reasonably stable. We were able to switch positions....carefully.
The season starts beginning of September. The first favorable tides are around the 9th, 10th, 11th. A big storm with easterly winds also helps push water in on the east coast. With rail it's very much hit or miss as far as when a flight arrives, some years September is a total bust.
 
One thing I found to be helpful as far as seating goes.

You either want to be braced high up, like the gunnels. Some sort of suspended chair running from edge to edge.

Or if it's on the floor you want to have it secured tightly somehow. ( Screwed to your removable flooring etc.)

I've had one or two gunners swing too far on a bird, lose their balance and you know the rest of the story!
Agreed, once I get a stool I like it'll be affixed to a frame for stability.
 
Thanks. It's reasonably stable. We were able to switch positions....carefully.
The season starts beginning of September. The first favorable tides are around the 9th, 10th, 11th. A big storm with easterly winds also helps push water in on the east coast. With rail it's very much hit or miss as far as when a flight arrives, some years September is a total bust.
On the Kennebec at least, good rail water levels can come from rains big enough to push a lot of freshwater down into Merrymeeting Bay. But too much covers everything and send the rails elsewhere. Such conditions are not looking likely this fall, but a hurricane or two can change that rapidly.
 
Looking good. Thinking through Jode's thoughts, I'd look at a gunwale to gunwale bench seat somwhere forward of mid-ship. A tall stool with a half-standing gunner seems like an accident waiting to happen, as does a stool that can rotate and let gunner swing towards the stern.
As long as it's screwed to a larger frame or piece of plywood it's very secure. A primary reason for a movable seat is to balance the boat fore/aft. Yes, safety is always important. I haven't had the feeling in the past that a stool promotes carelessness or stupid. This one only swivels a bit less than 90 degrees. The biggest safety factor is that my buddies are careful so I feel good about it.
 
On the Kennebec at least, good rail water levels can come from rains big enough to push a lot of freshwater down into Merrymeeting Bay. But too much covers everything and send the rails elsewhere. Such conditions are not looking likely this fall, but a hurricane or two can change that rapidly.
Hurricane rail hunts are fun if the better half doesn't veto the plan. Tropical storms can also be good. Done several in my life, a few hours before it hits as the surge comes in. I'm probably aged out of that excitement buts it fun to think about.
 
Hurricane rail hunts are fun if the better half doesn't veto the plan. Tropical storms can also be good. Done several in my life, a few hours before it hits as the surge comes in. I'm probably aged out of that excitement buts it fun to think about.
We don't often get storm surge here in rail season. (We do in winter storms.) But a big dump of a rain from hurricane or tropical storm remnants can bring rivers up fast. BTW, that pole has me drooling. Not sure I'd want the jointed version, though.
 
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