scaup 18 and mud

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has anyone ever had it in mud and if so how did it perform im asking because where i live and hunt i you go in with 3 feet of water and come out in maybe 3 inches of water
 
has anyone ever had it in mud and if so how did it perform im asking because where i live and hunt i you go in with 3 feet of water and come out in maybe 3 inches of water
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No one has built a Scaup 18' that I know of. From what I know the boat is a massive craft and a lot heavier than 16'ers that we are more familair with (minus the honker). I would not get that boat in mud with its weight and "V" hull.
 
Andrew Holley built one, look him up and ask him.

He sold it a few years back, ran great with a 40 Hp motor on it.

He had it in some skinny water, but I can't say I ever knew that he took it in mud. You should be able to drag it out though, depending on how thin the water really is and how much weight you have...and of course how much grunt you have.
 
Thats a pretty dang big boat with quite a bit of V.
I am will to bet that you will be pretty darn stuck in 3" of water given that it drafts over 9".
 
Andrew Holley built one, look him up and ask him.

He sold it a few years back, ran great with a 40 Hp motor on it.

He had it in some skinny water, but I can't say I ever knew that he took it in mud. You should be able to drag it out though, depending on how thin the water really is and how much weight you have...and of course how much grunt you have.a
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Eric,

I don't believe that you are correct. Andrew built his boat in 2006 (or so) and I don't think the Scaup 18 plans existed then, so it is a Scaup 16.

The Scaup 18 is a boat that I don't believe we have ever seen built and is a whole different beast than the Scaup 16 (which was designed by Sam for Eric years ago and is the boat I believe Andrew built - Andrew certainly indicates in his posts that he built the same boat as Eric if I read the archived posts right). The Scaup 18 is longer, a lot wider, has a much heavier hull and uses an interior boxed support structure that I don't think any of the other boats do and woudl be much worse in mud than the Scaup 16 you are talking about.

Than again what do I know.

T
 
thanks guys thats what i figuered being that it has a deep v hull i planed on putting a 40 on the back of it anyways but i like to go after them reds down here in louisiana and sometimes it gets pretty shallow sometimes ill have to find a boat with a flat bottom that suits my needs a little better once again thanks
 
Definately better boats out there to fish the skinny water for redfish.
Do you have long runs down the river or is it all back bays & bayous??
 
I have a scaup that I bought from Dave Clark last year- I have hung it up in the Penobscot mud twice- absolute beast to move. I also had it go high&dry at the cape in January- two man job to get it back to the water.
 
Tod, you can take a 16 and stretch it to an 18 real quick.

Slightly different then Sam's current plans on the 18, but nontheless, he built a Scaup 18'. furthermore, it was a nice boat to hunt and was very stable. I have seen him out in some pretty big stuff with it as well.

Send him a pm or email, he can confirm..

toodles.
 
Tod, you can take a 16 and stretch it to an 18 real quick.

Slightly different then Sam's current plans on the 18, but nontheless, he built a Scaup 18'. furthermore, it was a nice boat to hunt and was very stable. I have seen him out in some pretty big stuff with it as well.

Send him a pm or email, he can confirm..

toodles.
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I don't buy it from what I've read. He details his mods in this thread and even mentions that he wishes it was 2' longer with no mention of it being modified from the Scaup 16.

http://duckboats.net/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=718;search_string=scaup;#718

Are you sure you aren't confusing this with this super scaup? I'd love to hear from Andrew for a clarification so I have ti straight in my head.
 
I too thought the Scaup 16 was a fairly shallow draft boat too. If 18' is the desired length and the 16 has the desired hull, then stretch the 16 to 18.
 
I too thought the Scaup 16 was a fairly shallow draft boat too. If 18' is the desired length and the 16 has the desired hull, then stretch the 16 to 18.
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What he needed in my understanding of the area is plans for Ed's Peregrine.
 
tod, not asking if you bought it or not, not trying to sell anything. I know for a fact what he built, I have seen it, hunted from it, crawled all over it....then watched him sell it. Whether or not you believe that is truly immaterial to me or others.

what I said is, there has been a 18' scaup built as you asserted that there had not been.

Whether it was simply a stretched 16' version or the new scaup 18' design by Devlin is a point that is valid as they are different boats.

you can read all of his threads, even where he is building his "super scaup", but you will find no pictures or details...that is on purpose Tod. One that Andrew wishes to keep to himself and I will respect that. So, whether or not you find the specific tortured detail you search is again immaterial. I am sure it is not there on purpose. I find it interesting that you have such time in your day to go back and search old threads just to prove another innane point.

cory, best of luck, flat bottom for your needs as Carl who is local to you would suggest would be better.

Later.
 
tod, not asking if you bought it or not, not trying to sell anything. I know for a fact what he built, I have seen it, hunted from it, crawled all over it....then watched him sell it. Whether or not you believe that is truly immaterial to me or others.

what I said is, there has been a 18' scaup built as you asserted that there had not been.

Whether it was simply a stretched 16' version or the new scaup 18' design by Devlin is a point that is valid as they are different boats.

you can read all of his threads, even where he is building his "super scaup", but you will find no pictures or details...that is on purpose Tod. One that Andrew wishes to keep to himself and I will respect that. So, whether or not you find the specific tortured detail you search is again immaterial. I am sure it is not there on purpose. I find it interesting that you have such time in your day to go back and search old threads just to prove another innane point.

cory, best of luck, flat bottom for your needs as Carl who is local to you would suggest would be better.

Later.
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Interesting that in his posts here and his for sale ad, he doesn't mention that the boat is 18' or modified from the Scaup plans, but hey - must not be relevant like you say. A tape measure down the centerline would really convince me :).

Was it expanded in all directions or just a stretch?

As far as how I use my day, yep I have plenty of free time and like to look up inane points. More inane research yeilded this:

http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=36894
 
note the lack of measurement..but alas.

I have patients to see and my patience with you on yet another pissing match are now exceded....
 
Oops here I go again with the inane details. How about three cases of Andrew stating that the boat is 16' during or after the build. My above link confirms that Bubba1 is Andrew Holley:


"Anyways, this boat is about 16' long and about 6' across, and will handle a 40hp motor.":
http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=18959&p=146614&hilit=scaup#p146614


"... but 2 years ago I build a Devlin Scaup, a 16 skiff.":
http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=60663&p=450696&hilit=scaup#p450696


"She is 16' long and can take a 40hp, and I betting she move pretty quick":
http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8452&hilit=bubba1
 
i kinda run both rivers and back bays but ihave went in with water and came out with hardly any i was just wondering because i like the design of the scaup i may just make a hybrid and put a flat bottom on a scaup i havent decided yet on what to do but many thanks on all the information
 
FWIW, once I powered my boat properly ( 25 short shaft- 23.9 mph on the gps with two guys and decoys), it was fantastic in all conditions. I would not change that hull design one bit; it eats two foot chop. I have hunted out of a South Bay, a TDB 14 and TDB 17 over the past 20 years and the Scaup is the best riding hull I've ever been in.
 
You have the same dilemna a lot of guys have, one boat just doesn't do it all!
You need something low profile, easy to hide, shallow draft but can run a 1/2 mile wide river in all conditions.
Its tough to find a comprimise, good luck!
 
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