So today I bought yet another duck boat

Ed L.

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Yep, after everyones replys to Am I Too Old I bought a Fiberdome Widgeon today. During the discussion of keeping things dry a gunning box with a gun cradle came up. Years ago there was quit a discussion on the topic with many photos. I've searched for the threads but I'm striking out. Does anyone have any plans or photos they care to share? Thanks.
 
Congrats on the new boat Ed. I'm using my first kayak, bought in July, 3 times a week here in Texas - I turned 70 last May.

Do a google search for 'Lake Poygan Gunning Box'. Lots of pics available.
 
Hi Pete. Good to hear your doing well. I saw you were here on the river with Phil this year. You're still getting around well. I'll look up that thread.
 
Thanks Zach! You did a good job on that one.
I had a Carstens Mallard and that was toooo big, then I had a Carstens Puddler and that was tooooo small. I'm hoping this one is jussssst right!
 
You will like that boat Ed. It is very similar to my Hoefgen that I have had for many years. Should you decide to camp it, give me a shout. I e done a few different ways and can discuss pros and cons.

Mark
 
Nice little boat. Spec sheets say 75 lbs. Is that true? Looks like it can paddle fairly easy. How does it do standing in it to push pole?
 
Mark W said:
You will like that boat Ed. It is very similar to my Hoefgen that I have had for many years. Should you decide to camp it, give me a shout. I e done a few different ways and can discuss pros and cons.

Mark

Thanks Mark, will do. I'm excited to get it in the water.
 
roy brewington said:
Nice little boat. Spec sheets say 75 lbs. Is that true? Looks like it can paddle fairly easy. How does it do standing in it to push pole?

Hi Roy. Yeah, I think the spec sheet is correct. Its quit light. I was surprised. I don't think Ill be standing in it though. Basiclly a decked canoe. Of course I have to try it but we'll wait for warmer water..lol
 

Ed,

Here is one photo of the gunning box a good friend and I built.

In this photo it was used as a prop for a decoy ad.

I have other photo's if you like, but gotta dig em out.


All we did was design & construct a gunning box that fit my needs, and fit well in the boat.

The box is marine plywood, gun cradles and runners to keep the box out of the wet, are Mahogany.

Base coat of Smiths Custom Marine Epoxy, and then Parkers Duckboat paint.

So far it has worked very well.

VP

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That's a nice design Vince. Do you recall the out side dimensions? I hadn't thought of runners. Thats a good idea.
 

Ed,

Dani provided the old thread, if ya wanna click on it.

Thanks Dani!


I do think the dimensions are mentioned in my post. If not I can check them for you, also the runners are white oak.

The handle for the box is made from a thick leather belt.

I have always been a fan of the old gunning boxes, and studied many designs.

What we came up with fit my needs, and keeps movement to open the box at a minimum.

When we made the box we made two, but the second one is not completed. The second one is to be used for fishing, when I get around to finishing it.

The beauty is that you can customize your gunning box to fit your needs, and your shotgun.


You got yourself a mighty fine marsh boat there, and man o man are your gonna have fun using it.


Best regards
Vince
 
Ed L. said:
roy brewington said:
Nice little boat. Spec sheets say 75 lbs. Is that true? Looks like it can paddle fairly easy. How does it do standing in it to push pole?

Hi Roy. Yeah, I think the spec sheet is correct. Its quit light. I was surprised. I don't think Ill be standing in it though. Basiclly a decked canoe. Of course I have to try it but we'll wait for warmer water..lol


Ed,

My marsh double ender is 90lbs.

I use a retractable aluminum push pole, with retractable duck foot. It extends as far as needed, and retracts for easy placement in the boat.

I invert the push pole thru the deck open pole port, fore or aft, and jam the pole into the marsh bottom.

Then it is fine for me to stand up, as it is steady.


If you think you can push pole it standing, like in the Chet Reneson, and other artist paintings?

Ya better have the keen balance of a high wire walker, (especially after the decoys are placed). I do not have such keen balance.

Kneeling, I can use the push pole very well, when it is called for.

In my case it is keeping a low center of gravity at all times, except when the boat is well staked.


Once ya get the hang of your new vessel. You will be able to go, and hunt where no canoe can do as well.

Open water and high wind, avoid as much as possible. Stick to the lee and you'll be OK.


VP
 
Vince,

Currently I have a 10' push pole with a Redhead push paddle head. My son has a lathe so I'm going to have him turn me an aluminum point I can assemble to the other end for poking into the bottom through the stake holes. I don't know your build but Ill tell you my ballast will must likely keep me from attempting to stand in this boat. I'm comfortable paddling on my knees. I do have a webbed seat with 6" legs I may use just to rest the backside on while paddeling. I'll have to try it and see. It worked nice in the Momarsh boat I had some years ago. Then to hunt to use my invisalounger.

And this will only be used in sheltered water or a protected shoreline I have in mind only. I have bigger boats for hunting other days.

Thanks for info and insight. I'm pretty excited to get it in the water. Right now its still in the bed of my truck as I'm visiting in Chicago. Still have some goose season left. Hopefully I can get her out next week.
 

Ed,

Your very welcome for the info, and my experiences using my marsh boat.

Tell your son not to make the point to sharp. [;)] I made a wooden blunt point for the end of the push pole. Many times I jammed it to deep into the muck. Pulling it up was a job, and many curse words were said. All part of the fun...

Here are a few photo's of my marsh boat from the 1980's, until one of my last hunts in western PA, before coming to NY.

The photo with me and the boat was take in Manitoba in 1987.

The photo's with the blind bag, birds, and old 1100 (man do I miss that shootgun) are from the 1990's. The Canada goose limit in Crawford County, PA was one bird, and the small spead worked very well. I would always wait for the geese to come back from field feeding so they were relaxed hunts.

The photo with the 3 Canada goose decoys (the caller the last one I made), was taken on the east end of Shenango Lake. If you look very well, you will see my MI in the cradle of the gunning box. Black Shoot Guns are tough to see.


One more tip I will share, concerning decoys.

When pulled up on a mud or sand bar. I would place Canada Goose silhouettes around the boat to help conceal it. They take up little room in the boat during transport.

I also made standing duck decoys, that were on a dowel, that fit in a wooden plug of the forward push pole hole. They now are in different homes. I made a GW drake and a Wood Duck drake to replace them.

Hope you do good after the geese.

Just remember no live cripple Giant Canada's in the boat, as they make things very interesting. LOL


Best regards
Vince

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Vince,

I enjoyed the pictures and descriptions. I like the decoy placement idea in the forward spud hole. When solo hunting I typically only carry 3 goose decoys and 6 duck decoys. They all fit in a 6 slot bag. I have shells as well but usually I take two full body Big Foot to place on a sand bar.

Safety note to self. Design gun cradle so barrel of gun is higher than deck of boat! I'd hate to get excited and blow the bow out!

Crawford Co huh? Way back when my family moved west to Illinois from Lancaster County, PA. and now my oldest boy and his family live in Brooklyn NY.

I think if I look at when I joined this club it was 2001. If you look back though the posts I've had more dang boats of every shape size including kayak. My wife didn't even shake her head this time. Now that I'm retired and I can hunt during the week when most others are working and I'm not dodging mud boats and the new generation of hunter (and I'll apologize to the young guns that didn't learn from YouTube) I'm really looking forward to using this boat.
 

Ed,

Like you, I have found that 3 goose decoys, and 7-8 big duck decoys do the trick. So we are very alike in that way.

Teal decoys work just fine, and I can stow them anywhere. It's almost like they don't count. Except when picking up...

I put some of the duck decoys in individual bags (I dislike repainting my decoys). They get stowed forward, and under the deck. Goose decoys on top.

I use baskets, or plastic tubs to keep the decoys in, when in the vehicle, and to carry back and forth to the boat

Dragging a full boat, with no snow, or water is a major PITA. But ya gotta go where the birds tell ya to, and it is seldom without busting yer hump. All part of the deal.


Yup keeping the gun barrel well forward, and above the combing is a good idea. In the photo the gunning box & "shootgun" (unloaded) is back further than usual.

I use a lightweight, camo, waterproof gun sleeve, with shoulder strap to transport the gun to and from the boat, and at other none use times. Really does a good job of keeping mud and water where it need not be in the gun.

The only time the gun is loaded in the cradle, is when getting cripples, or jump/sneak shooting.

A slow moving marsh boat is one helluva a stealth sneak boat. The birds are stone dead, and no BB's in the breast. Like the old market hunters.


I envy the fact that you have had many duck boats. Different experiences really add to a hunters life, and well being. Having a understanding wife, a major plus.

It took all the $$$$, I saved up to get the two duckboats I had/have. They both fit my needs very well, so I did OK. Here is a photo of my long gone old sneakbox, a real duck hunting machine that I dearly miss.


Even before I retired, most jobs my days off were during the week. With no Sunday hunting in PA, Monday was a must hunt day, as was Weds. Afternoon turn and midnight turn, hunted when I could. Now when I look back on it, I must have been nutz, but boy did I have big fun!

Retirement hunting is sweet.

Only draw back is.

If ya don't have a really good gunning partner to prod ya, some days ya gotta kick start yourself to go, cuz of no pressure.


One of my best gunning partners lived in Lancaster Co. He owned Trop Gun Shop before he died. Also my inlaws used to work at Sight And Sound for years. Time was there was very good pheasant hunting down that way, and mighty good duckin' on The River. Now it is rat race central IMO


I look forward to your posts about your new boat, as you live in a grand waterfowl area. It's been a pleasure bantering with you.


Best regards
Vince





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