South Bay Scooter??

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Hank Yorke

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Does anyone have any experience with this boat? How do you like it? Can it really handle 2 men and a dog? Planing hull or Displacement?

Lou feel free to weigh in as well :)

Looking at a used one and the only guy I know who has one hasn't dropped his in the water yet...

Thanks guys
Hank
 
Although I've never been in one, I have thought about aquiring one several time. They are usually too over priced here on the Island and I just don't get that much of a call to go back west and gun the bays for one Black Duck. They have been around for ever , I'd say more than 40 years by different makers who have tried to make a go of it. A new one is about $4500. They have an excellent reputation here on Long Island. As far as I konw they sit 2 gunners and a dog comfortably.
 
Jack your thinking of the South Bay duck boat.South bay scooter is not the same boat.

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Bob
 
The South Bay duck boat is ok, A lot of guys love them, but I have some issues with them and sold mine. A scooter, traditionally, was a sailing and shoving boat,a lot of them had ice runners and were sailed on the bay ice, still are. Bottom is probably like a traditional Barnaget.
I haven't seen Lou's, so can't say if it's design is traditional, or adapted to outboards.
 
Sorry I didn't think there was a real scooters left. Mine was tight for 2 gunners and Maggie. I mostly gunned alone out of it. Let me tell you though on saltwater ice sailing a scooter is the best ride you'll ever have in your life. Angle Irons for runners and you stear with the jib, get 3 or 4 guys onit to keep it up in a 40 kt north west wind and your liiven. Mine just rotted away years ago.
 
Cockpit size is: (cockpit dimensions-42” x 73”) The dimensions and info are in the on-line catalog (downloadable) as well as some info on the Website - http://www.lockstockbarrell.com/scooterdd.htm It will handle 2 guys (around 175#) and a dog that's around average size for a Lab. You'd need to make a rack for the deck to hold decoys and it will do fine.......though, can be a bit cramped.......depending upon how "tight" you want to be. We've used it for years in our guide service, putting 2 guys in that for layout shooting close in on Buffy & Ringneck. We put the Whistler another 1500 yards out from that for the bigger divers. With a couple guys around 175#, layout shooting from it works well. Bigger guys might be cramped. I've hunted a bunch in Michigan here as well as Indiana and a bunch in Texas around Peggy, Choke Canyon (28,000 acre unpoundment) and Uvalde (access to 9200 acres and a bunch of lakes). I use it primarily in protected waters when using it as a marsh boat. If hunting layout with it, we typically "pull the plug" when we get to 1.5 foot waves.
If using the SBS as a one man marsh boat..........it's great. As a 2-man, it works well but can be a bit cramped, depending upon how you pack the boat. We take 42 dekes with the SBS and strap them to the deck.
 The boat has a slight "V" to it but it will get up and scoot with the right motor.
Holler with more questions and let me know how we can be of service.
Lou


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Lou, your boat is more like the traditional "grass boats". They were, and are, pulled up on the bay islands and salt marsh and gunned laying down, you sit up to shoot. Some were left ungrassed and Eel grass were piled on them when you set up, others were grassed using native cord grass, etc. (S.patens)

Originally, they were shoved to the point or island of your choice, later they were adapted to small outboards. Lots of variations exist and many can still be found.

The true Scooters are never used for gunning anymore, the ones that are left are owned by individuals in the Scooter clubs and are used for ice boat racing.
 
I may have just found and purchased a glass over plywood version of a 'scooter'. He is going to keep storing it for me for a week or so until I can make room. It has very similar lines, but the hull is much flatter except for a bit of a vee right at the bow. I will post picks when I drag it, I mean, bring it home.
 
My grandmother's brother's wife's father, Jack Inslin, ran the ferry to Oak and Captree Islands and also market hunted out of a Scooter in the winter. After he sailed over water and ice, he carried the sacks of ducks to the train station inland a ways. He also ran the "Wawayonda Duck Club" near Captree, L.I., N.Y.. Anybody remember?
 
Sorry I didn't think there was a real scooters left. Mine was tight for 2 gunners and Maggie. I mostly gunned alone out of it. Let me tell you though on saltwater ice sailing a scooter is the best ride you'll ever have in your life. Angle Irons for runners and you stear with the jib, get 3 or 4 guys onit to keep it up in a 40 kt north west wind and your liiven. Mine just rotted away years ago.
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Like these http://longislandgenealogy.com/Wireless/DuckHunting.html

I have one sitting in the back yard, I rarely use it--- heavy as a bit-h.

-Jack
 
Hey Jack What a great article.. Yeah they were heavy mine was ceder strip with glassed over by somebody. when I had mine i gunned out of Buddy Toomey's in Amityville. I was just a kid , let it go to hell and ended up taking a saw to it. VCRs weren't around at that time but a friend of mine had a 16mm movie of us out on the ice. What a trip. I dont even think the bay freezes anymore.
 
Thats great LI jack do u have any pics u could send me?


Thanks
Bob
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It's cedar planking, with rails on the bottom. When I got it, I was about 18 yrs old and didn't know what it was but made it a layout boat. I skinned the deck and hull with laun (easier than caulking in the planking gaps) and fiberglass over the laun. It's held up for the last 24 years-- too bad the broadbill didn''t.

-Jack

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