Stick Steer ????

John Molnar

John Molnar

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http://www.iboats.com/...zy%20glide|913250899

I have a 18 foot Landu with a 55 Johnson tiller....

I would like to have a Stick steer with throttle and forward and reverse controls...

Something Right in front of the bench seat off on the side of the gunnel...

Is there such an animal ????

John
 
John, you bet there is. check out Ezy-Glide. i just bought their discontinued model (830) on e-bay for $150.00. it's just steering, you'll have to get seperate throttle controls.
 
http://www.iboats.com/Ezy_Glide_Stik_Steering_Products

Here you go copy paste I haven't figured out how to link yet

I think this what you are looking for.
 
http://www.iboats.com/Ezy_Glide_Stik_Steering_Products/dm/keywords.stik--session_id.947286938--cart_id.517992081--view_id.5967--dz.12794?kcid=ezy%20glide|913250899

Heres another site with expanded list of prices,also Gene set one up horizontally on the fore deck of his TDB."Duck boats let's see them" for pics.I would have one in any moderate sized duck boat with a large covered rear deck.As far as I can determine,they are only for port side instalation,unless the cable is long enough to go around the forward cockpit and down the starboard side to where you want it,and thats only beacuse the hardware they sell for at the motor linkage, is for the port side instalation.
 
Joe,

It was a little confusing and I think I got the whole way to the ordering process before I figured it out. I think they word it that the cable comes out the front or the back of the box, translates into port or starboard but it depends how you route the cable. You COULD mount on starboard and run the cable out the FRONT of the box and the entire way front around the bow and then to the back. Not how I would do it but you could. You can't make a sharp bend or take the cable out like you can with a standard helm to help route through tight areas. That can make for some more interesting installation than with a regular helm.

It's important to remember that stick steering is nothing more than a commercial made "bushwack" gizmo. It beats the pants off sitting back on the transom using a tiller. It is not a high end no feed back smooth as silk steering system. Most duck hunters will love it, it is a solid quality piece of equipment.

Back to the original question.... You will need to use oem or aftermarker motor controls. Some motors are easy to adapt, my merc was rather easy. Some motors CAN'T be adapted without actually making some of the pieces yourself. Older small outboards can me adapted with some old bicycle handbrake and shifter hardware if you have the time and a little inginuity.

Engine controls and steering are completely independent of each other. The ez-glide steering will work with any motor that can be converted over to remote controls.

What you want to do is definitely possible as long as your motor can be converted to remote controls.

Best wishes,
Gene

ps> Joe, every time this question comes up I think about all those old hydoplane boat plans I find when searching for wooden boat plans. A lot of those plans use remote controls and steering on those OLD small outboards. I wonder if anyone has any of the plans that show the controls and steering. I assume it was all cable/bracket airplane rigging type stuff. I'm sure there is a reason I don't see any of those hydroplanes around these days! They sure do look like fun though.
 
Gene,thanks for jumping on.I would mount it forward on the port side.The hardware they sell with the motor pad is only set for that.They sell the control with up to 14 or 15 foot cable,which you could make a turn,say 3' diamater,under or over the forward combing then to the starboard side.Direction would be reversed,in that when you push the lever forward,you would make a right turn,and vice versa.The throttle,electric start,etc are another matter.If you set this up on a small motor .say 10-15 hp,I believe the tillers on most newer motors have some kind of friction adjustment,whereby you could set the throttle ,go forward and steer,then in manuvering situations go back to the tiller.Would be great for navigating a long open twisting river or lake,with islands, where you had a couple miles to get to your set-up.Another thing would you could stand,and steer with weight forward in say an Estuary.I'm finding out that with a small motor set down on the stern mount,the tiller doesn't have a clear sweep if you have decoy bags loaded on the stern deck.You do get more room if you stack the decoys in the rack,without bags,but it sure would be better to flip the tiller straight up and have an EZ glide stick steering.
The old timers didn't have this problem;no motor.As an aside,the electric trolling motor with a tiller extention and 36" shaft,places the control head high enough to clear any bags set on the stern deck,and you have F/R and speed on the tiller.If they just had more power with 12V.I have mine rigged both ways.(no EZ glide though)
 
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John,just reread your post.The EZ glide stick may not be available for motors over 40HP.You'll need to check that out.
 
"If you set this up on a small motor .say 10-15 hp,I believe the tillers on most newer motors have some kind of friction adjustment,whereby you could set the throttle ,go forward and steer,then in manuvering situations go back to the tiller."


Joe, if you set one up this way....call me before you water test it..I want to film it so I can win Funniest Home Videos money.
 
Lee,I know where you're going with this,but why do you think it wouldn't work for long stretches of unclutered water?
 
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Lee,I know where you're going with this,but why do you think it wouldn't work for long stretches of unclutered water?
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Joe,

Where did you see the guarantee on uncluttered water? Whats to say the same path traveled by one boat will not be clear two minutes later when you come along. Semi submerged floating objects never seem to stay in the same place for some reason. ??? hehe
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Dave,taking that into consideration,and not talking about a boat on plane,just moving along about 5kts.It's not perfect,but it's allot more confortable than reaching back,even with a tiller extension,making sweeping right turns is a PITA,and no tiller sweeping the decoys off the rear deck.I would ,however want to put a remote throttle in as well,just thought you might get away without one,right at hand.
 
Joe, somehow....giving up control of a boat at wide open throttle to waddle to the front just paint's all kinds of Darwin pictures in my head. Yes, you can tighten the friction ring on the tiller, that will keep you from slowing down when the stump pops up or Travis-boy cuts in front of you and yes you can tighten the steering friction bolt that will keep you from swerving while sauntering forward..unless the log that is under the surface hits the lower unit with immediate comic results that turn grim in a hurry. If you tighten the steering friction so the motor won't turn if let loose..it would be pretty hard to turn it if you made it to the stick. Like I said, call me so the rescue squad and I can have a good laugh
 
Would be nice if a rescue squad was around these parts.Seldom see anyone during the week.I'm not going to mount a stick on the wigeon.If I did,it would be half way up the side of the cockpit,so sitting on the rear board,I could reach both the tiller and the stick.BTW,my steering friction is so tight now,that it stays wherever I put it.Still working on that jewel.I'll mount a video Cam on the foredeck and send you the tape.(May be water spots).:^)
 
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