Eric Patterson said:
Eric, My response was directed towards your earlier statement;
[strike][/strike]Eric Patterson said:
Thieves
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Eric, My response was directed towards your earlier statement;
Dave
I appreciate the info. Can you imagine a pawn shop or gun store owner going down in person for each and every firearm they buy and asking the s/n to be checked? I can't.
When my Benelli was stolen I called numerous pawn shops and offered a reward. One pawn shop owner laughed in my face at the thought of anyone contacting me. The person that stole my gun will probably not pass it down as a family heirloom. The low-life sold or will sell it and the prospective buyer probably has no idea he can go in person to get the s/n checked, if he even cared. That's just the reality of the situation today.
Eric
I appreciate the info. Can you imagine a pawn shop or gun store owner going down in person for each and every firearm they buy and asking the s/n to be checked? I can't.
When my Benelli was stolen I called numerous pawn shops and offered a reward. One pawn shop owner laughed in my face at the thought of anyone contacting me. The person that stole my gun will probably not pass it down as a family heirloom. The low-life sold or will sell it and the prospective buyer probably has no idea he can go in person to get the s/n checked, if he even cared. That's just the reality of the situation today.
Eric
Eric,
No, I don't see it as a deterrent to curb stolen gun traffic. When you say people buying a stolen gun I differentiate that with a business buying a stolen gun.
As an individual I feel it is quite easy to prevent yourself from purchasing a stolen firearm.
As to a database, I have mixed feelings. On one hand yes it probably would be a good thing.
On the other hand, do we want Public Access you said database. If we do where does it stop the next person will want Public Access to all gun transactions. I don't have the answer wish I did.
No, I don't see it as a deterrent to curb stolen gun traffic. When you say people buying a stolen gun I differentiate that with a business buying a stolen gun.
As an individual I feel it is quite easy to prevent yourself from purchasing a stolen firearm.
As to a database, I have mixed feelings. On one hand yes it probably would be a good thing.
On the other hand, do we want Public Access you said database. If we do where does it stop the next person will want Public Access to all gun transactions. I don't have the answer wish I did.
Dave
Sadly, a lot of individuals don't care as long as the price is to their liking.
To me a stolen gun db is quite different than other forms of gun registries. If your gun is stolen you have the option of reporting it, and hence being recorded. It is basically a record of firearms NOT in your possession
Eric
Sadly, a lot of individuals don't care as long as the price is to their liking.
To me a stolen gun db is quite different than other forms of gun registries. If your gun is stolen you have the option of reporting it, and hence being recorded. It is basically a record of firearms NOT in your possession
Eric
ken yacavone
Active member
Vince
I feel if you own a gun and don't lock your car ( forgetting to lock it is another story) then you really don't respect the gun and have the responsibility needed to own a gun.
My two cents.
Ken
I feel if you own a gun and don't lock your car ( forgetting to lock it is another story) then you really don't respect the gun and have the responsibility needed to own a gun.
My two cents.
Ken
Eric Patterson said:Dave
It is basically a record of firearms NOT in your possession
Eric
Eric,
I understand your point however more accurate description might be:
It is a database of what you did have and might likely have replaced or have more of.
Dave
My despise of thieves and theft and desire that they receive justice runs deeper than my fear of big bro knowing I own or owned guns.
Eric
My despise of thieves and theft and desire that they receive justice runs deeper than my fear of big bro knowing I own or owned guns.
Eric
Eric Patterson said:
I understand I'm just not sure the General Public needs access to that information.
This really sucks, everybody hates a thief.
But is this sorta thing getting worse or is it something new like everyone seems to be saying? Nope, theft and all other crime has been a problem since the first day of human society. It?s never going away and probably not getting worse per capita. But there are far more people, meaning more targets for more thieves. Best measure is to protect yourself and your property as well as you can.
But is this sorta thing getting worse or is it something new like everyone seems to be saying? Nope, theft and all other crime has been a problem since the first day of human society. It?s never going away and probably not getting worse per capita. But there are far more people, meaning more targets for more thieves. Best measure is to protect yourself and your property as well as you can.
Vince Pagliaroli
Well-known member
Ken,
Gun, knife, shovel, axe, rat poison, ice pick, crow bar, tire iron, matches, lighter, gasoline in a can, whatever.
To put the onus of responsibility on the owner, not the thief is just plain asinine.
A thief is a ****ING thief.
My 2 cents and it will not change.
Vince
ken yacavone
Active member
Not blaming the owner just saying lock your sh-t up. Local news channel here put reporters at convenience stores. Found people leaving their cars running unlocked as they ran in. One customer left car running, unlocked, cell phone and wallet on front seat. We have every night people going thru unlocked cars every once in awhile a gun is taken. My nephew left his truck unlocked in drive with garage door opener in it ??
I was always taught take extra precautions when ever there is a firearm present.
Of course the thief is wrong. I wasn't saying the thief was right
Key word as you said is responsibility.
From one Capa Toasta to another.
ken
I was always taught take extra precautions when ever there is a firearm present.
Of course the thief is wrong. I wasn't saying the thief was right
Key word as you said is responsibility.
From one Capa Toasta to another.
ken
MIKE-SID said:
Mike,
Are you saying this is already a CT state law?
The link indicates that this a proposed bill before the US Senate. Do you have information as to whether it passed both the senate and house and was signed into law by the President? Just curious.
MIKE-SID said:
If this is a CT law what is the reason for the link you provided? The link takes you to a proposed bill before the United States Senate.
Vince Pagliaroli
Well-known member
Ken -
I was taught to be responsible no matter what, and certainly not just with firearms.
Being irresponsible brought a very stern response from my family ASAP.
Locked or unlocked, if someone wants what ya got it's gone.
Just pray that they only take the item.
For five years I lived in a Bad Ass neighborhood where 5 people were murdered (only one solved). Break in's were common to homes, vehicles, garages, etc. When neighbors bought new wicker furniture, and a blind for their porch, it was gone the next day.
I lived in a upstairs apartment. The downstairs apartment would get robbed about every 6 months. If you were dumb enough to be outdoors, or walking after dark, you would most likely not make it home. Aluminum siding stolen off homes while the people were home. Hearing shots fired at night was common.
You live in a place like that you learn what to do, what not to do, and safety is more in your own head, and hands.
Like a lock is gonna help ya... at times it just pisses em off even more, and a pissed off crack/meth head will kill ya for a dollar.
It is only stuff, and ya only have one life.
Moving somewhere else like I did can help, but is not a sure thing. Ya live (God Willing) and learn, or pay the price.
The word is RESPONSIBILITY, and a helluva lotta folks have no idea what it is, nor care.
When ya put the onus on folks that DO know what it is. To "prevent things from those that do not", that's BS.
What we have now is a society that excepts, and condones irresponsibility as common practice.
From one very hard Capa Tost to another.
Vince