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Bill Ferrar
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Ufrotte wool has my vote
JS McKinney
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I don't think you are aloud to wear underarmor while shooting a hammer gun in a sailing rig. Home spun wool for you sir.
CraigS
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Have several hot and cold gear shirts, they are great dry supper fast when you sweat so you don't get chilled.
heat gear underwear are the bomb!
cold gear long-johns are great too.
The kids had to have them for there football and baseball and got me turned on to them. Way better than cotton!!
I highly recommend them. My problem is in the morning setting up I always get hot and sweaty then the rest of the morning I am wet and cold, this under armor has eliminated that issue.
heat gear underwear are the bomb!
cold gear long-johns are great too.
The kids had to have them for there football and baseball and got me turned on to them. Way better than cotton!!
I highly recommend them. My problem is in the morning setting up I always get hot and sweaty then the rest of the morning I am wet and cold, this under armor has eliminated that issue.
Huntindave McCann
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Perry,
I have to agree with a positive rating for the under armor cold gear. It gives me as much insulation as thicker, heavier other long underwear choices.
I do like McKinney's answer tho; "[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Home spun wool for you sir."
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I have to agree with a positive rating for the under armor cold gear. It gives me as much insulation as thicker, heavier other long underwear choices.
I do like McKinney's answer tho; "[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Home spun wool for you sir."
David Robinson
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I like the Rocky brand fleece shirts. I found mine at Wal-mart. Very dry, soft, and warm. As a bonus, I can buy 4 Rocky shirts for the price of ONE of those over-priced Underarmor shirts. What a rip, IMHO! You're paying for the advertising.
Matt Moore
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I like silk. Alotta warm for the weight, and it's easier to pull on neoprene waders.
John Klingenstein
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I like Cabelas Thermastat but any polypropylene base layer serves the purpose of wicking moisture away from the skin and provides a good air trapping base layer.
Andy Grant
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Under Filson, I would wear fleece and gortex to keep warm and dry. I have a Filson jacket and have used the fleece, but try to stay out of the rain in it.
Scott Farris
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My personal theory is based on 35 years of buying my own gear & "field testing" it hunting and ice fishing. Your under layers must perform two functions, to keep moisture off your skin and provide loft (stagnate air spaces) for insulation. I use a base layer of synthetic long underwear (polypropylene) to wick moisture away and dry quickly if it does get wet. Next layer provides insulation / loft, trapping a layer of air to keep you warm. Wool is traditional and possibly the best material since it provides a high percentage of it's insulation value when wet. But due to it's cost, weight and cleaning requirements, I personally give the nod to fleece. A synthetic fleece, provides excellent loft and does not absorb water.
A few comments:
Cotton kills! Cotton absorbs water and loses almost all it's insulation value. This includes your shorts! Does any guy enjoy having the family jewels wrapped in cold damp cotton? This goes for your feet too! Wool or synthetic socks and a removable, exposed wool felt insole to absorb sweat.
Boot dryers are an incredible gift to the waterfowler! Starting the day in dry waders day after day, does it get much better?
For tight wads, check out military surplus gear. The US Military ECWS (Extreme Cold Weather System) under layers work great for less money than comparable gear. Due to being an XL size and not being able to find the Bear (fleece) pants in XL I haven't personally tried them but the polyprop. long johns and the Bear Jacket are staples for me. I really like the polyprop zip turtle neck for ventilation.
A number of years ago I read a test report on insulation capabilities of different materials. The bottom line was that insulation capability is based strictly on loft. The exotic materials like the hollow core threads didn't make a measurable difference. Buy your gear based on how it deals with water and how it keeps it's loft.
Scott
A few comments:
Cotton kills! Cotton absorbs water and loses almost all it's insulation value. This includes your shorts! Does any guy enjoy having the family jewels wrapped in cold damp cotton? This goes for your feet too! Wool or synthetic socks and a removable, exposed wool felt insole to absorb sweat.
Boot dryers are an incredible gift to the waterfowler! Starting the day in dry waders day after day, does it get much better?
For tight wads, check out military surplus gear. The US Military ECWS (Extreme Cold Weather System) under layers work great for less money than comparable gear. Due to being an XL size and not being able to find the Bear (fleece) pants in XL I haven't personally tried them but the polyprop. long johns and the Bear Jacket are staples for me. I really like the polyprop zip turtle neck for ventilation.
A number of years ago I read a test report on insulation capabilities of different materials. The bottom line was that insulation capability is based strictly on loft. The exotic materials like the hollow core threads didn't make a measurable difference. Buy your gear based on how it deals with water and how it keeps it's loft.
Scott
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Dennis Smith
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I like cabela's fleece as outer wear along with moisture wicking under wear. Fleece works like wool and you do not have to worry about the moths. Fleece pants, shirts and jacket were great on my four mountain elk hunts I went on. I carried a light weight poncho in my pack in case of rain and for a wind break and riding the horse. You sweat a lot walking the mountains and cotton is not the way to go. The fleece did not add a lot weight to be packed in and kept my baggage weight done for the airlines. I use fleece under waders and fleece shirt and vest under my wading jacket. The Dry Plus fleece pullovers are real good. The fleece lining is nice and warm.
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Pete McMiller
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Bill,
There is only one answer and I see that Cabelas is carrying it now and that is Merino Wool. They don't have the brand I like but something similar. They have a couple different configurations in the catalog, the most recent is by Osterlund or something like that and is a 400 gram top and bottom long underwear. I usually wear Icebreaker brand and love it. Today out in the Marsh in the blowing snow I wore an Ice Breaker Merino zip top, a Filson Merino long sleeve top, a Filson Merino wool sweater and a Filson Merino Waterfowler sweater. A Drake 3 in 1 over it all.
I have searched far and wide for the ultimate under garments and Merino wool is the only stuff I will buy anymore. Try Merino wool and you will never go back to synthetics again.
Best,
There is only one answer and I see that Cabelas is carrying it now and that is Merino Wool. They don't have the brand I like but something similar. They have a couple different configurations in the catalog, the most recent is by Osterlund or something like that and is a 400 gram top and bottom long underwear. I usually wear Icebreaker brand and love it. Today out in the Marsh in the blowing snow I wore an Ice Breaker Merino zip top, a Filson Merino long sleeve top, a Filson Merino wool sweater and a Filson Merino Waterfowler sweater. A Drake 3 in 1 over it all.
I have searched far and wide for the ultimate under garments and Merino wool is the only stuff I will buy anymore. Try Merino wool and you will never go back to synthetics again.
Best,
Pete,
I've never really considered wool longies, BUT I'm sick of worrying about the synthetic funk when deer hunting. I've bought antibacterial synthetics and they can be better, but I'm not happy. I assume that the merino is less stinky and washable in a regular machine?
T
Pete McMiller
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Tod,
Merino wool is the original no-odor fabric. You can wear Merino wool for a week and it will stink less than one day with some of the synthetics. Filson cautioned me to hang dry their Merino but I just toss it in the drier. Same with the IceBreaker brand only they hold up better than Filson after a year.
Merino wool is the original no-odor fabric. You can wear Merino wool for a week and it will stink less than one day with some of the synthetics. Filson cautioned me to hang dry their Merino but I just toss it in the drier. Same with the IceBreaker brand only they hold up better than Filson after a year.
Kristan
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I have a Wilson 425 Water Foul Jacket I wear:
I recommend anything wool...I wear a Cabelas silk long underwear as a base layer...Woolrich Medium 200 wgt wool upper and lower...The heavy weight wool is so too hot for duck hunting 90% of the season, especially if you are putting out lots of decoys...It'll take you an hour to stop sweating even in the coldest of weather...A pair of wool pants...A wool upper shirt from cabelas and a wool outer sweater from cabelas...The biggest expense I have in my wear is the Woolrich thermals...There around $90 for the upper and $90 for the lower...You may notice a trend as well...Beside my base layer of silk it is all wool...I figured my life is worth the cost of the purchase of wool...Wool is the best insulator when wet, I stopped wearing cotton 5 years ago...I would not go back...I fell two weeks ago face first after getting stuck in the muck...I took my sweater and shirt off and rung all the water out of the arms and put them back on...Temperature was around 28 degrees...I hunted another two hours without feeling a chill...Now there was some chill for the first ten minutes of the wool collecting my body heat but it was nothing life threatening...You will end up shedding your jacket on most hunts because you just do not need it unless it is raining or snowing heavy...
Regards,
Kristan
I recommend anything wool...I wear a Cabelas silk long underwear as a base layer...Woolrich Medium 200 wgt wool upper and lower...The heavy weight wool is so too hot for duck hunting 90% of the season, especially if you are putting out lots of decoys...It'll take you an hour to stop sweating even in the coldest of weather...A pair of wool pants...A wool upper shirt from cabelas and a wool outer sweater from cabelas...The biggest expense I have in my wear is the Woolrich thermals...There around $90 for the upper and $90 for the lower...You may notice a trend as well...Beside my base layer of silk it is all wool...I figured my life is worth the cost of the purchase of wool...Wool is the best insulator when wet, I stopped wearing cotton 5 years ago...I would not go back...I fell two weeks ago face first after getting stuck in the muck...I took my sweater and shirt off and rung all the water out of the arms and put them back on...Temperature was around 28 degrees...I hunted another two hours without feeling a chill...Now there was some chill for the first ten minutes of the wool collecting my body heat but it was nothing life threatening...You will end up shedding your jacket on most hunts because you just do not need it unless it is raining or snowing heavy...
Regards,
Kristan
