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I used to converse with Mark Heinkel on the Montana big game site when I was into Elk hunting. He would call a spade a spade when some dimwit got on there and bragged about 700 yard shots on Elk with his super whizbang rifle. I feel sorry for Zumbo too..sorry that he feels the way he does. As editor of a major hunting magazine , there is no way he can use ignorance to justify his stance..maybe he can check into re-hab and make it all better.
 
Worth wrote a couple of articles about water fowling Down Under and it ain't pretty. It all started with the do-gooder law and order argument. Now you can't have a magazine gun of any kind for any purpose! All that being said it ain't about hunting, it is about the 2nd amendment and our right to keep and bear arms. I have noticed that several of you who feel it is no big deal to "ban" certain weapons live up north or in the northeast. I know it against the law to have a handgun in DC and NYC..Just wondering if anybody has been shot up there with one of those unlawful weapons lately? You have been subjected so long to restrictive gun laws that you are accustomed to the outrage. Kind of like boiling a live frog. You don't know you’re being boiled until it’s too late. Make no mistake about it the anti"s don't care what kind of gun you have and what you use it for. In their minds a gun is an evil and dangerous thing. More importantly you are evil and dangerous if you have one. We all better wake up and write our elected officials and comment on HR 1022 before they pull another brick from the foundation! (Sorry for the vent...and no I'm not picking on you Yankees).




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Worth wrote a couple of articles about water fowling Down Under and it ain't pretty. It all started with the do-gooder law and order argument. Now you can't have a magazine gun of any kind for any purpose! All that being said it ain't about hunting, it is about the 2nd amendment and our right to keep and bear arms. I have noticed that several of you who feel it is no big deal to "ban" certain weapons live up north or in the northeast. I know it against the law to have a handgun in DC and NYC..Just wondering if anybody has been shot up there with one of those unlawful weapons lately? You have been subjected so long to restrictive gun laws that you are accustomed to the outrage. Kind of like boiling a live frog. You don't know you’re being boiled until it’s too late. Make no mistake about it the anti"s don't care what kind of gun you have and what you use it for. In their minds a gun is an evil and dangerous thing. More importantly you are evil and dangerous if you have one. We all better wake up and write our elected officials and comment on HR 1022 before they pull another brick from the foundation! (Sorry for the vent...and no I'm not picking on you Yankees).

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Well put!!! The anti's know good and well they can't topple the wall all at once. They must take it brick by birck as each one becomes loose. We as hunters and gun owners need to strengthen the mortar holding our wall togher every chance we get!! ANY proposed restriction on ANY gun should be fought tooth and nail to the bitter end!!!

 
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First I would like to state that the last gun show that I attended was about 80% military style weapons. If this is indicative of how things are in other parts of the country I don't see how someone in the business could miss this. Maybe Jumbo doesn't go to many shows or read any of the popular gun magazines. They are filled with these weapons also.

As somebody stated earlier, they are fun to shoot. So are the fully automatic ones. I had a chance to go to the automatic weapons shoot at Knob Creek, Kentucky a number of years ago. The people there were having quite a bit of fun. If I could afford the ammunition, I wouldn't mind buying one to play with.

A tweeked AR can be a real tackdriver. Colt sells their AR-15 with a 5 round magazine (or at least they used to) for use as a hunting rifle. When it comes right on down to it a rifle needs to be accurate and the cartridge up to the game that is being hunted. For some game the AR fits the bill. I have used mine to hunt coyote when I was living in Montana. It held up better than my M-700 in that environment.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the bolt action did not become popular until after the GI's returning from WWI started using them. They had been trained on the bolt action and when they became available surplus they were bought by these same servicemen. Today, the younger folks in the military were trained with the M-16. Naturally they would feel comfortable with it and some would want one for a personal firearm.

I don't use my AR-15 as much as I used to. I hunt mostly birds now so the shotgun is my current weapon of choice. I use a .44 handgun or a 45/70 rifle for big game. These are my choices but that SKS I have would sure make a sweet gun for pig hunting.

Zumbo's comments were out of line, probably through ignorance and a feeling of superiority. The old time outdoor writers were brought up with bolt actions. They feel that the bolt gun is a superior firearm and that they are superior because they use them. Personally, I don't like bolt actions, I much prefer lever actions but that is another argument.

GAry
 
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