Craigslist is Bad For Your Marriage

Larry Eckart said:
We can all relax.

Our marriages are safe.

The boat in question has been sold.

:)

Larry
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Glad I already have one. Maybe thats why I'm not married.
 
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So much malarkey in this thread.

I?m sure there are places a sportboat won?t do but they are the finest in my opinion, for my region. I?ve had two different mudmotos on mine and I?ve even used it for fishing like that.

I?ll take a bargain sportboat every day and may even pay full price for another good one.
 
Good morning, Nick~


Never having been afloat in a Grumman Sportboat - but in plenty of other Grumman canoes - this thread has piqued my curiosity.



How would you describe its tenderness/stability? I am guessing it's similar to other flat-bottomed canoes of its size. Perfectly fine with two paddlers sitting on its thwarts - but you want to be lodged in some heavy brush or on terra firma to shoot - preferably over its ends, as few fully afloat vessels with a narrow beam are at their best in the immediate aftermath of 12-gauge broadsides.


In any event, there's no question about the sweetness of its lines - that tumblehome is just wonderful.



All the best,


SJS

 
First boat I ever bought was a sportboat. In 1982 and was more stable than my canoe and did fine with a small outboard. We now have 20+ in our marsh and for years each member has had one. With 2 men, a dog, decoys, and a 6-8hp 2 stroke there have been only a handful of incidents. Two I know were guys getting into the boat and losing their balance and deep "sixing". One time the 300lb punter went out the back while running but I'm not sure the details. They are used in the ditches and ponds so no rough water. I'm sure they are over loaded. They are light weight so we can pull over rollers on the dikes. For larger bodies of water that can get a reasonable chop, I wouldn't feel comfortable.View attachment IMG_0983 (1).JPG
 
Larry Eckart said:
Guys and Dani,
There is a Grumman Sport Boat for sale in the Atlanta Craigslist. Great shape. Good price. Many guys consider it a premier boat for marsh and river hunting. It has a cultic following in the midwest.

My wife would shoot me.

The papers would read, "wife acquitted in incident with husband."

They just don't understand.

A recent post said, "have you ever had a gun speak to you?" That's nothing compared to the pull when a boat speaks to you.

I can see it painted. I see it behind my truck.

But it's just not the time.

But here it is for someone else.

I won't be able to sleep tonight.

Larry

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/...duck/6676273087.html
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Larry if your still after something along lines of sportboat but in fiberglass check out used ghenooes. Being they are produced in florida and sold thru out the south should be easy to find in Carolinas. I,ve had a 15'4" classic for about 12 yrs and love it. I would venture to say the most stability you,ll find in a canoe designed hull. Will float in about 3" water so easy to pole , paddle etc. I run mine with an 8hp merc short shaft and get about 16 mph loaded with lab and dz. decoys. Can walk all around boat without fear of flipping if you use common sense. Run it occasionaly with just a stern mounted trolling motor in some impounds and moves well. Routinely slideing over logs and hitting stumps with no ill effects so far. Riverhawk boats also makes a clone and some super wide models of hull.
 
Roy,
My post was really about my love of boats in general, several models in specific, including the Grumman Sportboat.

I'm not really planning to buy one at this time. It's just fun to look and wish and wish and wish.

Yes, the Gheenoes are all around this part of the south. Heavy suckers but they sure are stable.

Thanks for your pitch.

Hope you are well.
Larry
 
Hello Mr. Sanford,
I would just say some people are comfortable in canoes and some people are not. Sportboats are more stable than your average canoe but they?re still a canoe.

Naturally they are good in marshes, backwaters, rivers, but I think they handle rougher water than most people are willing to go into. Obviously, one has to be reasonable. But the high pointed bow is superior to the low square front of a jonboat, which is the usual hull for a mudmotor.

I use mine, with mud motor, like many easterners use a sneakbox- traverse the lee sides and bays of big waters to reach the marshes.
 
Good morning, Nick~


Thanks for the helpful perspective.


Although I grew up on Great South Bay with heavier boats, I am a great admirer of canoes in general. Not sure how many I have - 10? 12? Like any vessels, they are at their best on waters for which they are designed. Their capability combined with their portability is magical; those with traditional lines are truly sweet.



As it turns out, we are at our camp (cabin) on Lake Champlain for the weekend. Sure enough, craigslist shows a 15-foot Sportboat (with a 6-horse OB) for a ridiculously low price.


Have you used both 15's and 17s?


All the best,


SJS

 
I?m not a Grumman historian but I?ve heard there was some variation in the sportboat design early on. To the best of my knowledge, the 17-19s are actually called freighters and have a much narrower transom than a sportboat.

I?ve been in a 19? freighter but not enough to report on it other than I think it would be fantastic for its intended purpose.
 
aaah, but then there is always another boat waiting next year. I'll post some questions for any of you still interested in the topic of "canoe-ish" duck boats as i try and figure out my next steps moving back up to motor power from paddles for my hunts.
 
Jeez Larry, who wears the pants in your family?

TOLD my wife I was. buying a new sppedboat for the cabin. Didn't ask, just told her. Only cost me 2X more for a total Kitchen and Bath remodel but I told her.......
 
NickR said:
I?m not a Grumman historian but I?ve heard there was some variation in the sportboat design early on. To the best of my knowledge, the 17-19s are actually called freighters and have a much narrower transom than a sportboat.

I?ve been in a 19? freighter but not enough to report on it other than I think it would be fantastic for its intended purpose.
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Scanoes, freighters, potahtoes…. yup, The 17-19’ were put together differently, narrower than the Sportboats, the longer scanoes were/are better cruisers due to length and hull shape. Motors and canoes always have a learning curve as you add a lot of power and stern weight. I got to see Sportboats for work off and on over the years, some reckon them a bit tippy…not so much for me - fair if u compare them to the old Scott Canoe duck boats, maybe not so much vs SportsPal/Raddison or few other of the wider, multipurpose canoes I’ve gotten a shot at here and there.
 
You should keep looking. It's not a perfect boat. Too small for a lot of water I want to be on, and too heavy to car-top solo. But it's easily car-toppable for 2, can fish or hunt two and a dog, seaworthy enough for any protected waters, even out in whitecaps, stable enough to stand and cast (though probably not for 2), and will make 10 knots on a light motor. Definitely fills a niche, especially for north country lakes with carry-in access but no ramps. For similar function in a very different boat, also take a look at the Scott Duckboat. Not as good out in the waves, but goes easier with that flat bottom, and so stable that 2 can fly cast out of it--and pretty much stand on the gunwales with no fear. Just doing my part to keep your marriage on its toes! https://abitibico.ca/en/collections/duckboat/products/serie-duckboat-deep-duck-14
 
Jeff Reardon said:
You should keep looking. It's not a perfect boat. Too small for a lot of water I want to be on, and too heavy to car-top solo. But it's easily car-toppable for 2, can fish or hunt two and a dog, seaworthy enough for any protected waters, even out in whitecaps, stable enough to stand and cast (though probably not for 2), and will make 10 knots on a light motor. Definitely fills a niche, especially for north country lakes with carry-in access but no ramps. For similar function in a very different boat, also take a look at the Scott Duckboat. Not as good out in the waves, but goes easier with that flat bottom, and so stable that 2 can fly cast out of it--and pretty much stand on the gunwales with no fear. Just doing my part to keep your marriage on its toes! https://abitibico.ca/en/collections/duckboat/products/serie-duckboat-deep-duck-14
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I have owned the original Scott 14' Deep Duckboat and 16' Deep Duckboat. I also still have a 15'4" Gheenoe Hi-Sider. One reason the Scott duck boats were so stable is because the hull bottom design looked like a direct copy of the Gheenoe reverse chine design. There was a brief time when Gheenoes were sold in Canada, mine dates to the late 80's. I think the guys at Mid-Canada Fibreglass must have been inspired by (copied) the Gheenoe and applied the hull form to their 12' and 14' square stern canoes and added a centre bench seat and oarlocks to create their first duck boats. Then they added a few inches more freeboard to the 14' to create the Deep Duckboat.
In the late 90's MCF designed the 16' Deep Duckboat, which was not derived from their other boats, had a big open centre space with side flotation chambers and shelves with forward and stern bench seats. It was very stable, mine planed with a 5 HP with one person, and really flew when I put a 16 HP Go-Devil on it. Very shallow draft which was ideal for our club's marsh. Traded it to get a 20' Lund Alaskan, last of the flat bottom ones built in Canada.
A few years ago MCF shut down boat making and Abitibi acquired the molds. It looks like Abitibi has retained the original 16' Deep Duckboat design and offers some useful options.
Note that the pictures used for the 14' Deep Duckboat look the same as for the 16' - this was also a feature of the later brochures from MCF. If you study the specs it is clear the 14' is not just a shortened version of the 16' DDB, so my guess is the 14' DDB is probably the same pattern (and mold) as my original 14' DDB, so more canoe-shaped.
Abitibi has one US dealer, in Maine.
 
Kim Ross said:
I have owned the original Scott 14' Deep Duckboat and 16' Deep Duckboat. I also still have a 15'4" Gheenoe Hi-Sider. One reason the Scott duck boats were so stable is because the hull bottom design looked like a direct copy of the Gheenoe reverse chine design. There was a brief time when Gheenoes were sold in Canada, mine dates to the late 80's. I think the guys at Mid-Canada Fibreglass must have been inspired by (copied) the Gheenoe and applied the hull form to their 12' and 14' square stern canoes and added a centre bench seat and oarlocks to create their first duck boats. Then they added a few inches more freeboard to the 14' to create the Deep Duckboat.
In the late 90's MCF designed the 16' Deep Duckboat, which was not derived from their other boats, had a big open centre space with side flotation chambers and shelves with forward and stern bench seats. It was very stable, mine planed with a 5 HP with one person, and really flew when I put a 16 HP Go-Devil on it. Very shallow draft which was ideal for our club's marsh. Traded it to get a 20' Lund Alaskan, last of the flat bottom ones built in Canada.
A few years ago MCF shut down boat making and Abitibi acquired the molds. It looks like Abitibi has retained the original 16' Deep Duckboat design and offers some useful options.
Note that the pictures used for the 14' Deep Duckboat look the same as for the 16' - this was also a feature of the later brochures from MCF. If you study the specs it is clear the 14' is not just a shortened version of the 16' DDB, so my guess is the 14' DDB is probably the same pattern (and mold) as my original 14' DDB, so more canoe-shaped.
Abitibi has one US dealer, in Maine.
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Great history. Maine is, of course, canoe country, and the Scott Freighter canoes have a big following here. Their duckboats are most popular among folks I know who fish rivers and want to be able to move upstream with shallow draft, a small motor, and decent speed. And, though I have never bought from them, from friends who have, I would enthusiastically endorse Two Rivers canoe for anyone in New England looking for a freighter canoe or a duck boat.
 
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