Duck Hunters...Irresponsible Piggish Slobs?

Steve Steffy

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Yeah, I would pretty much say that sums it up. I'm referring to those ignorant slobs that hunt Presque Isle; though, I'm quite certain this occurs elsewhere too. That's why I'm posting this here.

Is it really that difficult to pick up your empty casings when your done hunting? Or even as you shoot? Is it too much to ask to take the garbage...potato chip bags, candy wrappers, coffee cups, empty propane bottles, etc. with you when you're finished hunting? You brought them in with you after all, ever hear of "Leave No Trace"?

Quite frankly, I'm embarrassed to be associated with the duck hunters of today. Not all of them mind you, I know a lot of stand up duck hunters / waterfowlers and I'm absolutely certain they won't take offense to this post, those that take any offense are likely included in the ignorant slob category.

I was going to hunt Presque Isle today and decided against it due to a cold my son passed around our household during the holidays. Instead, I loaded up the wife, my son and two labs and figured we could just go check out the blinds on beach 11 to see if there was any open water / action to speak of. We did manage to see a couple flights of birds which made it tempting to come back later in the afternoon for a hunt. But I gotta say, I'm ashamed for what my wife witnessed in the blinds we walked by and in.

She has never come along on a duck hunt with me before and she was curious as we approached the first blind and wanted to see inside. Shotgun shells were everywhere and trash littered all about...inside and outside the blind. We continued down the beach to the next blind...same thing only on a grander scale. Not only was there trash everywhere, but it looked as if every duck that was harvested from that blind was beaten against the blind over and over again....inside and out. Blood splattered everywhere, it looked like a freakin' crime scene! Next blind? Same thing! Am I missing something here? Or are we supposed to bloodlet our ducks as we harvest them? If so, are we supposed to make it a point to get the blood all over everything in sight? I'm thinking this is not the case. My guess is that it can be directly attributed to the kill 'em all, no respect mentality that's portrayed in the magazines and TV shows presented today. You guys really need to grow up and get a clue and quit idolizing slobs that give waterfowlers (as well as other hunters) a bad name. Here's an idea...do your own thing!

I don't get it! I clearly recall the President of the Northwest PA Duck Hunters Association, Mr. Pat Tarasovitch, including in the club newsletter to try and police your empties and garbage after each hunt. Not that a true sportsman that actually cares for the game he seeks and the environment needed to sustain the game, should need to be told. It's just done automatically by those individuals. Anybody that hunts these blinds should be well aware that this is the organization that manages these blinds with the grace of the DCNR. It's a STATE PARK people...they can manage (i.e. close) duck hunts on the park if they choose to do so. There are a LOT of so called "hunters" that need a swift kick, not in the behind, but in the mid frontal region, before they lose this hunting grounds for everybody. It's a privilege to hunt on this piece of land, not a right. And a there is a lot of work done behind the scenes to make this hunt happen every year. This work is done by a handful of dedicated volunteers that apparently receive very little in the way of respect from the people that benefit from their efforts. Pat Tarasovitch and Shawn Feiock, my hat is off to the both of you.

Lastly, these blinds are wide open to the public and most are very easily accessible. How do you slobs think the public will react to what they see? This is a great place to breed anti-hunting sentiment if you ask me. It's no wonder blinds get tagged with spray paint each year. And yes, that includes this year. I saw at least three blinds spray painted by an anti-hunter today. Not that I condone this behavior, but what do you expect, really?

I guess I'm done venting, thanks for listening.
Steve
 
well said , well written , don't lose faith , there are still allot of us out there that share your ideals . thank you for voicing it.
 
On top of all the obvious, leaving hulls and garbage lets "claim jumpers" know there has been good hunting at that spot. No point in letting slobs move in. I make a real point not to leave ANYTHING. No point in giving the antis more ammo either.
 
Steve, I had a similar rant last year on another forum after finding one of my favorite spots with piles of shells (probably 2 dozen), empty "energy drink" bottles, chip bags, empty cans of dip, and, to top it all off, a large pile of s*** and toilet paper about 10 feet from the obvious place to sit and hunt. I supppose if I spent the morning drinking heavy dozes of caffeine, absorbing a weeks worth of nicotine, eating junk food, and pounding the snot out of myself with 3.5" magnum shells, I'd need to drop a load, too.

We also came quite close to losing access to a fine little woodduck spot near my house when a local "hunter" during early goose season left his canoe on property belonging the local land trust after they politely asked him to move it, and then he left a large pile of shells right at the trailhead on the pond. Fortunately my hunting partner and I came on the mess and cleaned it up before too many folks from the land trust who own the land saw the mess. (We also make a point of always showing up to help on their trail maintenance work days.)

I attribute the bloody blinds to the mentality demonstrated in videos by folks like Jeff Foiles, which remind me more of bad pornography than any of the hunts I've been on.

A simple way to stop some of the problem would be to make any party occupying a duck blind on public land responsible for any trash in it while they are there, and have your local warden or land manager write some littering tickets. I know a few shells get lost, especially by those of use who shoot autos or pumps, but everyone should pick up every shell they can see, and there is no excuse for shells inside the blind.
 
Steve,
While walking my dog after a hunt one day I witnessed the same mess at a state park by me, these pigs leave EVERYTHING at this break wall, including lead shotshell hulls. I thought the same thing too, like the park doesn't have to let these people hunt here. These dirtbags on the wall also pass shoot at anything within 150 yards. And often don't retrieve their cripples. This causes birds to bypass half of the bay and the other real hunters who are trying to decoy birds. It is embarrassing and I feel your pain.
 
I havn't had a blind on the beach in quite a few years (about 20 since I got drawn). I express my concern to a lot of hunters but nobody seems concerned. It amazes me that hunting is still allowed. I always kept a leaf rake with a short handle in the blind beside a garbage bag to help clean-up at the end of the day. The last year I got a blind I had 3 rakes stolen with beer cans and pizza boxes in their place. Fishermen and boaters aren't any better. I picked up 14 ice bags in that area before I set my blind.
The duck club fought to get hunting on the park and are responsible to police the blinds. A very large job for a very small group.
I can see a day when we get a new superintendent there and hunting will not be allowed. John
 
I hunt quite a bit on the Upper Mississippi River NWR and am astonished by the amount of garbage duck hunters leave out on the refuge. Empty soda cans, candy bar wrappers, empty chew cans, casings, etc etc. It is a privilege to hunt on these public lands. I absolutely cannot imagine how these so called hunters think it is ok to leave all this garbage behind. It would be fantastic to know where they live and arrange for a garbage truck to deposit an entire load on their front yards!!
 
I havn't had a blind on the beach in quite a few years (about 20 since I got drawn). John

Wait, these are blinds assigned by draw? In that case shouldn't it be a simple matter to look at who used the blind last and hold them accountable? A ticket for littering and make them ineligible for any future draws. Or have them drawn and quartered.
 
if it is a lottery draw for a blind, someone knows who's been there and they should be fined and lose the opprtunity to hunt there. I really don't get it we come by boat, if it fit in the boat on the way there it fits on the way back.
I always seem to come home with a boat load of other peoples trash. I prefer to think it is the bird watchers and jet ski crowd not our own...
 
This whole thread reminds me of a trip to Alaska when we noticed an amazing piles of trash dropped off the road at "scenic outlooks" , a relative living there said it was all residents not tourists
 
It happens in every outdoor activity. Some people are just that way.
I don't run into too much when hunting but we don't have designated blinds so it is spread out more. I do see it out fishing. Lots of pop bottles. While ice fishing it isn't uncommon to see a pile of cans and bottles sitting right where a shack was. I've heard form people with underwater cameras that some lakes are littered with crap on the bottom after a big concentration of ice shacks move into an area. Some of these are big camper trailer type shacks and guys can't put a garbage bag in them.

A couple years ago my nephew and I went to a new lake to ice fish. We had heard rumors that some fish were biting there but nobody was there when we got there. We fallowed some tracks out to the middle and there sat half a dozen empty bottles of Mt Dew, about the same number of beer cans and a chew can or two. My nephew and I both said the same guys name when we saw this. Sure enough a few days later the slob was bragging about the fish he caught in the spot we were at the day before we went there.

I know it ends ups being biodegradable but I hate in the summer when everyone thinks it is a good idea to throw all the rough fish they catch on shore. There are places that are unfishable because of the smell during the summer. I just don't get it and the worst part is that they actually think they are helping something.

Tim
 
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if it is a lottery draw for a blind, someone knows who's been there and they should be fined and lose the opprtunity to hunt there.
If it were only that easy...if the blind permittee does not show up to hunt the blind then it becomes fair game for anybody to hunt in as long as they're properly licensed. No check ins or anything of the sort. If the the blind owner shows up a half hour after first light or after you finished setting out a spread of 100 blocks...guess what, you have to pick up and move. I think I may try to make it to the next club meeting and voice my concerns some more. This is getting to be really ridiculous. There are many more issues with the system they have in place, but this one just takes the cake since it effects everybody including the wildlife.


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I have seen it in just about every state, and Canadian province I have waterfowl hunted. A few ruin it for many. When waterfowl hunting, and fishing, my friends and I take out bags of trash, and from a NWR this season 40+ empties, that were in a pile and just left....... For you know, the "Help" and other hunters to take out. After 49 seasons I would say it's getting worse, not better, and that is a damn shame as places to hunt and fish are getting scare as it is. As in many things, some people just don't care, and never will.
 
One point: Do you ever recall an "Outdoorsman Show" that featured hunting segments providing footage of anyone picking-up their shells after they shot? Can you name one waterfowling video where this occurred? Repeatedly, numerous times I have wanted to kick Mr. Dorsey in the pants when he breaks open his OU and leaves his empties on the ground to a chorus of "nicely done" from his hunting partners. Are all hunters swine? Well, I would offer that many just vary in their degree of "porkiness"-monkey see, monkey do.

I spent some time with some Central American kids that were sponsored by Northern Michigan University's youth leadership program. They worked a day with me on a dune restoration project on Lake Superior's shoreline east of Marquette, Mi. Out of the seventeen participants, all but three spoke decent English. I speak halting Spanish-apparently a "special" dialect based on their smiles. When we broke for lunch, the conversation wandered to how clean the roads and streets were here. They were significantly impressed by the general lack of trash in and around metro areas in the United States.

If you hunt Argentina, be prepared for a surprise. Don't expect a very "Green" land ethic-wholesale poisoning of birds occurs...
 
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Hey Steve,
I tried years ago to get INTO the club by going to the meetings. At that time it was a very closed thing. I work 2nd shift now but let me know when and where they are meeting and I'll try to be there too.
They may be more open now, John
 
This new breed of Duck Hunters has been brought up with "No Respect for the Gift of our Environment" With this non respect for our lands, they will be the downfall of our Hunting Tradition unless they start to respect everything & everyone !!!!
 
NO NO NO These slobs are great, got to hunt a shore blind late november after picking up coffee cups ,candy wrapper, pop cans . I found a new U A SKULL CAP , 9 rounds of 3'' black cloud and best of all a KA BAR sheath knife but no sheath . Not to mention all the hulls i get to reload
 
This seems to be something that is nationwide and not just the young guys.We trailride dirt bikes all over Colorado and other states.In Co it is worse than anywhere I have seen wether it be Fisherman,hunters,campers,offroaders and others.People cutting trails and throwing beercans everywhere building fires anywhere they choose.I think it is an attitude of I'm going to get mine now to hell with the future and what anyone thinks.When duck season is over my son and I will cruise the shoreline in the canoe with garbage bags and pickup trash.The first time I done this I was surprised how much trash there was, a canoe is not big enough you need a barge.Hopefully people wake up before all is lost.
 
Hey Pat - You know when I think about it, you make a good point. I've found ammo, a beautiful small folding Buck knife, plenty of fishing gear, some decoys, and even a new pair of binoculars. Kind of reminds me of when I did a stint as a garbage man back in my 20's. Ya never know what your gonna find, the good, the bad and the ugly! Could be why I don't mind cleaning up after Slobs (even though I still bitch about it). Somebody gotta do it, and I'm out there anyway..... just wear a good pair of gloves and carry hand sanitizer!

One man's trash is another man's treasure. When people throw things AWAY, very few folks' know where "AWAY" is.......
 
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