Euthanized geese in Alabama HOA community question

I can't speak to those particular birds, but we have large, nuisance, resident populations in the Carolinas - even a special Resident Goose season in September in an attempt to control that population.
 
I am NOT close to this situation.

It has been done in PA in the past due to the same complaints and health issues. The geese are rounded up when the molt is on for the older birds and young are not yet fledged. The birds were processed by professionals and the meat was used and not wasted. It is my understanding that these are Giant Canada Geese that set up residents in areas. The same birds that the September Nuisance Season was created to address. It did for the first couple of years and then the birds wised up and went to the areas that could not be hunted. The amount of birds became very large and they can be very territorial when defending a nest. My young daughter found this out for herself years ago when we were fishing near a park boat launch.

I had many years of good hunting the same birds in the late season, pass shooting. The birds wised up, and so did I.

Many folks like the birds but not the amount of POOP that they leave behind which is a large amount. Takes lotta Fuel to get a Giant Canada Goose in the air...

my 2 cents
 
We have lots of resident geese and long growing seasons. Tough situation especially when they can shut down swimming areas with E. coli from their droppings. Harassment only goes so far and they can’t be hunted in HOA grounds.
 
I wish they would do that to the mute swans in CT. They destroy the submerged aquatic vegetation (SAV) and leave fertilizer everywhere. All the problems of resident geese and more, no hunting season.
 
They are protected under the MBA, you have to have a USFWS permit to do these culls. But since they are nuisance resident geese, permit is relatively easy to get, especially if you have USDA do the roundup.
I have heard of some states allowing non-native swans to be “controlled” but the peta types really get in the way because they are swans.
 
Neighborhood in Madison had a permit and USFWS helped in the trapping/ euthenizing of 550 geese. I cannot find where it stated what they did with the meat. I hope it went to a local food bank for the homeless, or used some other way. The residents won't allow hunters. They also have permits to oil eggs.
 
They have done it here multiple times because they traverse from the swamp to the school then to the airfield and then to the neighborhood. But when the corn is first picked they go there for a week. That is a key time in September for the early resident goose hunts. But instead they decide they want to gas them the last week of August. Would be cheaper to just let the hunters do the work for them and then they also get eaten.
 
benp said:
They have done it here multiple times because they traverse from the swamp to the school then to the airfield and then to the neighborhood. But when the corn is first picked they go there for a week. That is a key time in September for the early resident goose hunts. But instead they decide they want to gas them the last week of August. Would be cheaper to just let the hunters do the work for them and then they also get eaten.
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it’s against the deed restrictions and HOA rules to discharge a firearm in those developments. They’ll fine you and can take you to civil court with your own HOA dues. They’ve got nothing better to do.
 
Where I hunt in New York State we’ve had the DEC go in area and oil the eggs to prevent them from hatching, but we have not had them kill off large local flocks. Thank God because early resident goose season is basically a holiday in my household lol. I live on the water and I deal with geese pooping all over my lawn and pavers every single day but either oiling or euthanizing shouldn’t be allowed in my opinion. Hunters should be have less restrictions in order to harvest the birds. We have a few “goose patrol” companies that go and run geese off golf courses, parks, schools etc. they just harass them which is pointless in my opinion. Occasionally you’ll get lucky and get them at the right time and you’ll get a shot at the local flocks when they fly out to the bay after being chased by their dog.
 
This all happened not too far from where myself and @Steven Alexander live. There is a company in North Carolina that tackles these nuisance goose issues and they offered to resolve the problem free of charge and the geese would not be killed. The HOA declined the offer but no reason was stated. I'll be honest, gassing 550 geese bothers me. I think the HOA board members mismanaged the flock and could have put measures in place a long time ago to discourage the flock and prevent it from exploding. They failed at managing their ponds and flock. In the end there was too much Heinrich Himmler school of thinking from the HOA board.
 
Eric Patterson said:
This all happened not too far from where myself and @Steven Alexander live. There is a company in North Carolina that tackles these nuisance goose issues and they offered to resolve the problem free of charge and the geese would not be killed. The HOA declined the offer but no reason was stated. I'll be honest, gassing 550 geese bothers me. I think the HOA board members mismanaged the flock and could have put measures in place a long time ago to discourage the flock and prevent it from exploding. They failed at managing their ponds and flock. In the end there was too much Heinrich Himmler school of thinking from the HOA board.
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I’ve dealt with geese, albeit at a much smaller scale, on some food plot research plots… once they decide that your land represents safety, they’re incredibly difficult to convince otherwise, even with hunting pressure.
 
Michael

I have no doubt they are difficult to remove from your land once it becomes their domain. One of the news stories included the USDA recommendations to Heritage Plantation to prevent it from happening again. Things like letting dogs chase them off, laser pointers, RC boats, and a strict no feeding policy in addition to oiling the eggs to suffocate the embryos are recommended.

I'm not positive but I think forum member @Bill Burruss lives in this community. I'd like to hear what he has to say about how the problem was handled.
 
They get outta control fast, with no management. I love killing resident geese. Access here is the hard part, because of the reasons stated by some above. I trimmed down a group of about 200 over 3 years off one large pond. Had them culled down good until the owner passed.
 
Eric Patterson said:
Michael

I have no doubt they are difficult to remove from your land once it becomes their domain. One of the news stories included the USDA recommendations to Heritage Plantation to prevent it from happening again. Things like letting dogs chase them off, laser pointers, RC boats, and a strict no feeding policy in addition to oiling the eggs to suffocate the embryos are recommended.

I'm not positive but I think forum member @Bill Burruss lives in this community. I'd like to hear what he has to say about how the problem was handled.
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They are difficult to remove once established, and this is the problem. We're at the early stage of this in our little community - lasers, dogs, and rc boats definitely work, but its amazing how many homeowners gripe about even that. So far, we'd managed to avoid them getting a foothold, but our homeowner who'd taken the most initiative (with board approval) via lasers and rc boat relocated this winter - and I've already noticed 2 brooding pair and 7 gosling. I'm gonna have to buy an rc boat and get busy.
 
OK I'm old and recall when the Giant Canada Goose was helped back to healthy status by a few states after fearing it was going extinct. Those states then transported those geese to states that wanted to establish resident populations. Study the birds and you know what is going on now.

Giant Canada geese do not migrate far as do other Canada Geese. I recall when the limit was one bird per day, and there were zones where you could hunt them and zones that were closed. Even to the point of IF you killed a bird you had to take it to the local state Wildlife Office to have it ID'd and recorded and tagged. Most of this took place to establish flocks for hunting as duck numbers were low and Mallards were also stocked. At that time there were far more waterfowl hunters, unlike today.

How and why this all has happened is not a mystery. How to come to terms with the results is something that non hunters and hunters alike have to work out. Neither side will fully like how it's done.
 
Interesting views and I appreciate that the geese do get out of hand. Now that this is public talk and similar questions have been expressed in my area about terminating the over population, I was just curious. Many know I live on an island so currently there is a large number of geese that call the island home. I'm not oblivious to the problems the geese create. I of course look forward to the Sept resident goose season but I'm only taking a few that I can eat. Others try to run them down with their golf carts or shoot bottle rocks at them. This of course is only a temporary fix if it does anything at all. I imagine as time goes on the euthanizing of geese will come to these parts as well. Many golf courses and retention ponds being built now that the city planners feel are needed for continued growth of the $400,000+ properties in subdivisions that continue to draw the folks and the need for higher taxes and city capital.
 
All i know is the big ones carry the leg iron! Hope they dont get to euthanizing them lol. I love when I get a group of bigs that show up like C-130's cupped up in the spread. I have killed some giants over the years. One of my favorite photos is from many many years ago where I had my 80 lb first lab lay next to these 2.
 

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