Scott, Just a couple points. 1.if I believe it works better I may shoot better, the mental game is very powerful. 2. If I only shoot once to kill a duck instead of 2 or 3 or??? then the cost per duck goes down. I don't know if it is worth it for everyone but it seems to work better for me. The first duck I shot with a 20 ga. Hevi load just stopped flying and breathing in the air. Very impressive. Also handloading is one of my hobbies and then cost stops being a factor. Also compared to the cost of gas to get to the hunt shells really are a small part. If anyone shoots enough to worry about the cost per, well I am just envious (sp). Am not giving anyone (you) a hard time just pointing out the facts as I see them. P.S. I shoot a muzzleloader at deer and then my shot per really drops. ;-). Good discussion, thats what keeps me coming back here several times a day. OOPs I guess I went over my couple points didn't I?