Questions for ALL DBHP Members and lurkers: Harvest Information Program

Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? Yes
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? I filled out the HIP questionnaire
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? Online
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? Yes
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? Online form presented to me by several state agencies
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? Online
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? Yes
Do you know why those questions are asked? Yes
Do you know how those answers are used? Basically they are a blunt instrument for harvest estimates that are refined by more accurate smaller samples such as wing surveys where individual hunters are selected at random to provide detailed harvest reports, I believe.
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? They equip managers with data needed to safely allow the longest seasons possible.
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? Yes, relative to the average hunter. Not when compared to waterfowl biologists who do it for a living.
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? Moreso than the average waterfowler.
Would you like to learn more about HIP? Of course!
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP? Online discussions led by experts in the field where the ins-and-outs and rationales are discussed. Published reports detailing calculations and inferences as well.
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification? I'd like to see modern technologies, such as apps for daily reporting, be incorporated into HIP process for greater accuracy.
 
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Brad

1....yes
2....yes
3....yes
4....no
5....yes
6....yes
7....no
8....no
9....yes
10..yes
11..yes
12..no
13..no
14..yes
15..online
16..the washinton state online HIP end of season report is an improvement over the old system, but it needs to be more
Intuative and user friendly. I know a number of old timers who have trouble with it and just put down "did not hunt"
rather than go thru the cyber frustration .

Thanks for the time and effort you are putting into this
 
Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? yes IA, WI, RI
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? Yes IA WI, WI
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? Online, and in store
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? YES... all of them
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? yes (IA)
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? yes (RI, WI)
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? yes
Do you know why those questions are asked? yes
Do you know how those answers are used? yes
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? neither/both
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? somewhat
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? somewhat
Would you like to learn more about HIP? sure
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP?
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification?
 
Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? Yes
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? License in store. HIP online.
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? Yes, Online
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? No
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? Online
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? No
Do you know why those questions are asked? Yes
Do you know how those answers are used? Not 100%
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? Can see it both ways
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? Slightly
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? Not really
Would you like to learn more about HIP? Sure
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP? Researching online
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification? Not Really


I pretty much do everything online if I can, never have an issue with answering the HIP survey. Did the bird wing envelopes for a long time until they stopped asking.

 
Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? YES , MICHIGAN
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? YES
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? YES
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? STORE
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? YES
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? YES
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? NO
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? YES
Do you know why those questions are asked? YES
Do you know how those answers are used? NO
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? BOTH
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? NO
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? NO
Would you like to learn more about HIP? SURE
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP? ONLINE VIDEO
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification?[/quote] NO
 
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Brad Bortner said:
I am interested in hearing from all the members here about your experiences buying licenses and getting HIP certification. I really would like to hear the answers to these questions from a broad spectrum of members. Please either respond here or message me if you would rather. I am working with agencies to try to improve HIP while also making it easier to get your HIP and your answers to the HIP screening questions.

I would like to you to answer the following questions for each state that you hunted in or purchased a license to hunt. Please don't share any personal information publicly or feel like I am prying. I need your perspectives so I can work with the agencies with a firm understanding of your experiences and concerns.

I really appreciate your answers to these questions and any experiences or thoughts you'd like to share. Thanks.


Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? Yes
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? Indiana on line, Michigan in store
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? Yes
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? Yes
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? Indiana on line , Michigan in store
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? Yes
Do you know why those questions are asked? Projected harvest for each state.
Do you know how those answers are used? No
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? yes, to a degree.
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? no
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? not really
Would you like to learn more about HIP? Yes
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP? Include the information in each state's Waterfowl Regulations
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification?
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The license agents in stores need to understand the importance of HIP program
 
Brad Bortner said:
I am interested in hearing from all the members here about your experiences buying licenses and getting HIP certification. I really would like to hear the answers to these questions from a broad spectrum of members. Please either respond here or message me if you would rather. I am working with agencies to try to improve HIP while also making it easier to get your HIP and your answers to the HIP screening questions.

I would like to you to answer the following questions for each state that you hunted in or purchased a license to hunt. Please don't share any personal information publicly or feel like I am prying. I need your perspectives so I can work with the agencies with a firm understanding of your experiences and concerns.

I really appreciate your answers to these questions and any experiences or thoughts you'd like to share. Thanks.


Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? - Yes
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? = Yes
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? = Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? - On Line (2)
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? - Yes
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? - No - Had to go to separate HIP survey on line
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? - online (IN) & phone (OH)
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? Yes, immediately after
Do you know why those questions are asked? - I assume to track harvest numbers, and to set guidelines for future season dates & bag limits.
Do you know how those answers are used? - "
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? - Never really considered
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? - No
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? - No
Would you like to learn more about HIP? - Yes
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP? - A written explanation on the registration site or posted elsewhere
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification?
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- To me, it has always seemed to be a pretty unreliable, arbitrary method of gathering accurate data. The variables affecting the data collected must be astronomical.
 

Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? Yes
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? NO
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? Lic at store HIP by phone
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season?Yes
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? NO
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? Phone
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? NO
Do you know why those questions are asked? NO
Do you know how those answers are used? NO
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? Probably not
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? No, Yes
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? NO
Would you like to learn more about HIP? NO
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP?
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification? NO
 
Vince Pagliaroli said:
RL,

The idea of info in the state pamphlet is a good one.

Only catch is now PA, charges to purchase the pamphlet (other states may follow), and not all want that added expense, so do not purchase.



VP
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I doubt that this will survive court challenge. Still shaking my head that the cost of printing these would not be folded-in to the license fee.
 
RLLigman said:
Vince Pagliaroli said:
RL,

The idea of info in the state pamphlet is a good one.

Only catch is now PA, charges to purchase the pamphlet (other states may follow), and not all want that added expense, so do not purchase.



VP
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I doubt that this will survive court challenge. Still shaking my head that the cost of printing these would not be folded-in to the license fee.
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RL,

PA is a Commonwealth, and the PA Game Commission cannot get increases without political approval (never easy), and the Game Commission budget is strained.

I do believe the cost is $5.

As I no longer live there, I do not know if it is being challenged or not.


VP
 
Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? Yes Oregon
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? Store
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? Yes
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? Yes
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? No
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? Yes
Do you know why those questions are asked? Not Really
Do you know how those answers are used? No
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? Provide
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? Kind of
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? No
Would you like to learn more about HIP? Yes
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP?
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification?Never been an issue for me. Always been easy
 
Hi Brad,

Here ya go.

Did you buy a license for the 2019-2020 hunting season? Yes Minnesota
Did you get HIP certified for the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you hunt migratory birds during the 2019-2020 season? Yes
Did you buy you license and HIP online, through an app, at an agency office or at a store? Store
When you bought your license/HIP certification, did you answer the questions about how many ducks, geese, doves, cranes, coots/rails/snipe/gallinules you shot in the 2018-2019 season? Yes
Did the store clerk, license agent, or agency personnel ask you the HIP questions? Yes
Did you register for HIP online, on an app or by phone? No
Did you buy get your HIP at the same time as you bought your license? Yes
Do you know why those questions are asked? Yes
Do you know how those answers are used? Yes
Do you believe that your answers help in harvest management to provide hunting opportunity or take away opportunity? Provide opportunity
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about migratory bird hunting surveys or management? Yes
Do you consider yourself knowledgeable about HIP? Yes
Would you like to learn more about HIP?
What would be the best way for you to learn more about HIP?
Do you have anything you'd like to tell me about HIP certification? Brad, before retiring I worked for Minnesota DNR Wildlife, and before that I was the Statewide Waterfowl Biologist in Utah, and so I've dabbled in these arenas before. In the early years of HIP I had several instances where I was not asked the HIP questions, and I drew the license agents attention to it. In several cases they just assumed "nos and 0s" to the questions, and I corrected them on it. I then informed our license bureau so they could followup with the vendor. I've not had any problems in the last 10 years or so.
 
I am going to bump this to the top so I might get some more responses. I am particularly interested in hear from folks who purchase licenses and get HIP certified in Delaware, Nebraska, Wyoming, and Colorado. You have always had to get your HIP certification online. Do you find this step easy or a pain? Anyone from Kentucky? Your system changed a few years ago, how is it going?
 
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