Stupid is as stupid does

Steven Alexander

Steven Alexander

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I was sent this. I don't do Instagram, so hopefully it posts correctly. I'm also unsure of the full context. Y'all, don't be "this guy". 🤦‍♂️ :rolleyes:

I've hunted a lot of AR flooded timber where guys were within a couple dozen yards of us and everyone killed ducks, because we respected each other. It's not ideal or recommended, but it's not rocket science. Put 'em in the hole, and don't shoot until they are touching down toes. Do that, and they fly out thru the trees giving others a shot too.

 
Some folks really need to learn how to resolve conflict without resorting to violence. Sad behavior from small minds.
 
Ok I have officially changed my mind again..... I cant wait to go try a flooded timber hunt. Who are these guides and what are their fees? I wont even need coffee in the morning with some before sunrise ufc! Between the boat races and fighting once we get there. I should either need a cardiac defibrillator or a nap by 9 am from the adrenaline crash.
 
William

This might have been in Louisiana and not Arkansas. I typed out a big post and then thought I better find out where it happened and not assume. Glad I did because some folks said it was on Quachita and not Ark timber. I can't imagine trying to scrap someone waist deep in water wearing waders in the dark at 58. For certain I'd throw one punch, miss by a mile, and need to stop to catch my breath.
 
Crazy. If they posted that in CT, the police would be looking for them right now. One more video showcasing some of the worst behavior in hunting, broadcast so the non-hunting public can view it. Keeping the bogus stereotype of the ignorant redneck hunter alive and well, two jackasses at a time.
 
Steve

Ark has been on everyone's minds with all the bad publicity from public land so I can see why everyone would jump to that conclusion. I did at first but the one thing that seemed off was no trees.
 
I'll admit I complained a lot when I was younger because in my area we are relegated to a draw for a blind location. That's where you hunt for a two year period until the next draw. I wanted to hunt freely so I ventured out to where I could do that. I learned over time I didn't like the shoving and bullying I saw in these other areas. Where I grew up there was a unwritten comradery in the bottoms as we called it. You got to know everyone in your area that used the ramp and we looked out for each other. We applauded a good hunt of others and saddened liked brothers when one passed on. I moved back home in 1996 and still felt this comradery to a point but the new hunters in the area where taught to hunt not by family so much but it seems YouTube, hunting blogs and other influences. I've come full circle I guess as I'm looking forward to the blind drawing coming in August in hopes I can draw a blind that will have my name on it for the next two years.
 
Ed L. said:
I'll admit I complained a lot when I was younger because in my area we are relegated to a draw for a blind location. That's where you hunt for a two year period until the next draw. I wanted to hunt freely so I ventured out to where I could do that. I learned over time I didn't like the shoving and bullying I saw in these other areas. Where I grew up there was a unwritten comradery in the bottoms as we called it. You got to know everyone in your area that used the ramp and we looked out for each other. We applauded a good hunt of others and saddened liked brothers when one passed on. I moved back home in 1996 and still felt this comradery to a point but the new hunters in the area where taught to hunt not by family so much but it seems YouTube, hunting blogs and other influences. I've come full circle I guess as I'm looking forward to the blind drawing coming in August in hopes I can draw a blind that will have my name on it for the next two years.
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Lots and lots of public where I hunt. When I was in high school, I would ditch my first couple classes sometimes to go on the river and try and kill a few mallard before class. I knew 90 miles of river better than anyone. I could even look at the changes in the summer and by fall almost predict where new vegetation should be and how it would change backwater sloughs. The best part, was it was only 15 min from my house or an hour, depending on which 90 mile stretch I wanted to hunt. By the time I was a sophmore in college, I would get to my spot, be set 20 min before shooting light and almost always a head lamp would come in and start setting 50 yards away. Politely always asked to give some room, was always met with "you dont own the river" tough man attitude. Quite a few times, my calling would out do the work of their hunting abilities but most times, it was just a ruined hunt for both of us. When I would kill a limit in front of a group like that, I would purposely pick one decoy up at a time and walk it back to the bag, and then go back out and get one more. If I had time, I would even throw bumpers for the dog, and when they bitched, I would always reply "You dont own the river". But enough of that nonsense, I started traveling. I to this day, still hunt about 4 spots I have never seen a hunter in. Its sketchy sometimes and I dont think most would put the effort in to get to these places, but I wouldnt have it any other way. Its unfortunate, but thats how this sport has gone and what worries me even more is the transition to big money game around ducks. Its already bad enough in the big game world, and slowly its becoming the same for ducks. You wanna shoot mallard, you better dig deep into your pockets or settle for divers, and thats a damn shame.
 
Eric Patterson said:
William

This might have been in Louisiana and not Arkansas. I typed out a big post and then thought I better find out where it happened and not assume. Glad I did because some folks said it was on Quachita and not Ark timber. I can't imagine trying to scrap someone waist deep in water wearing waders in the dark at 58. For certain I'd throw one punch, miss by a mile, and need to stop to catch my breath.
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Agreed, it might be a new sport though. Wheres Dana white when we need him??? I agree, i questioned Ark timber with the lack of trees. But its NOT shocking at all that it would be some LA boys getting down. Them rednecks down there love em ducks and bass. They take those two all too serious. Love the passion, hate how its expressed in these boys though. All I can truly hope and pray is a youngin wasnt present for this BS and the youngest ones in this group were the two acting like fools.
 
William

Yes, that was a very bad example of behavior. In the longer video they alluded to the fight resulting from the way one party was "acting". Do we really believe anyone in this video is the beacon of morality to judge others for what is proper and not when duck hunting? Nope, just hotheads who can't reconcile.

To me it's just a reality that lesser experienced and younger hunters flock to public land and behave like this. In fact it seems to me the demographics of duck hunters on public land is trending towards twenty somethings with fewer middle aged men. Not that middle aged men can't be assholes too, but I suspect this behavior will be on the rise.
 
Didn't watch the vid, because I'm in the blind trying to kill a deer but will watch it later.

What I can tell you is this happens a lot more then what you would ever believe it does down here in Louisiana.

I'm not proud but I'm guilty of it myself. I work my backside off to get to a spot and set up to hunt. Your not going to set up on me. I go out of my way to not do that to others but I'm not going to have it done to me.

For the most part it is the younger crowd of guys that cause the issues or the city boys aka weekend warriors. But there are guys my age and older that or problem children too but the vast majority are the younger 17 to 32 year old guys.

Because they like to roll in packs of 5 to 7 most times and none of them can fight for themselves. I started carrying my sidearm in a chest holster rig.

It's a sad state our duck hunting has become in this country.
 
The other lesson here--at least as far as the video shows--is that if you are going to pick a fight with a guy a lot bigger than you, you ought to know how to fight. I have no idea who--if anyone--was in the right here, but I have to admit I chuckled when the little guy went down after all his bluster.
 
Jeff Reardon said:
The other lesson here--at least as far as the video shows--is that if you are going to pick a fight with a guy a lot bigger than you, you ought to know how to fight. I have no idea who--if anyone--was in the right here, but I have to admit I chuckled when the little guy went down after all his bluster.
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oh god ive watched it like 6 times and laugh every time. I love the little man syndrome and him saying hes gonna kick his ass again and then act like hes gonna back hand the bigger guy. Then 1.... 2.... scooby doo and hes drinking marsh water. It really is pretty funny, I wouldnt need to shoot a duck for the rest of the day, I would just be giggling at the stupidity until I went to bed.
 
I still remember the last fight I picked .......and lost. Lesson learned. BTW - not duck hunting.
 
20 years ago this would have been a private matter that only those involved knew about. Thanks to modern technology the entire world now knows about their antics and is discoverable by a current or future employer. I was always taught the Mark Twain quote "better to be thought a fool then open ones mouth and remove all doubt." I think this applies here but with video.

Rick
 
Brad F said:
I still remember the last fight I picked .......and lost. Lesson learned. BTW - not duck hunting.
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I remember my first fight.... 4th grade, basketball courts, I had not the first idea what I was doing, but he did. One punch right to the throat, down on the ground and thought I was dead for sure. I remember watching the nike symbol on his shoes walking away as I gasped for air. It sucked but pretty funny now that I think about it.
 
I've heard stories of the upper Sparkleberry Swamp on the Santee Cooper lakes here in SC being full of fights back in the 70's and 80's. I have a buddy in S Louisiana that wouldn't think twice to scrap over a duck blind he built on public water. I don't know many that beat him to his blind though.

Personally, no duck is worth all that nonsense.
 
Eric Patterson said:
Steve

Ark has been on everyone's minds with all the bad publicity from public land so I can see why everyone would jump to that conclusion. I did at first but the one thing that seemed off was no trees.
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I agree with you. It happens everywhere. Not necessarily coming to blows but "heated interactions" happen all over. I've been on the receiving end of some antagonizing behavior here in NJ.

Its a problematic example for the community and sport. I've seen far too many videos of this and unfortunately, most of them are waterfowl hunting for some reason. I've seen a few field disputes, flooded timber, and maybe one or two from boats.
 
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