When is the migration over?

Larry Eckart

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Guys,
I got to thinking recently and my wife says that is always dangerous.

When is the annual migration "over" meaning, when is it that all the ducks that are going to move south are done moving south?

I am especially curious about this as a relatively new southern duck hunter in South Carolina.

Simplified, you could say there are two kinds of migrations. One, the migration that goes straight from up north to the final southern destination. Two, the migration in stages as birds are pushed by weather systems and move south in gradual steps.

We all know that more birds seem to be staying as far north as possible.

Does tough weather in January continue to move birds south or by that time do they all just tough it out wherever they are? At what point do birds stop flying south?

Your observations and thoughts appreciated.

Larry
 
Its never over. Birds move constantly.
A study years ago showed that mallards and pintails will move 200+ miles north & south over the course of weeks during any given winter following open water & food availability.
I've seen winters where we had more ducks show up on every cold front from October to February.
And other winters were we got an initial push of birds in late November and never seemed to have more than trickle show up during the season.
Than I have also seen huge flocks of bluebills suddenly show up during mid-February. Were they coming up from the south or down form the north????
 
Interesting topic. I think you could make the argument that they're only not migrating when they're nesting and brood rearing. Especially when you think about the farther-migrating species like BWT, where some go as far as Central and South America. If I had to pick a date for the end of the fall migration I'd probably say sometime in late January. There's a marsh near me where, for the last couple of years, it seemed like all of the birds showed up at once in late November and we never got a new push.

Back home in Iowa, I remember seeing lots of spring migrants pretty much as soon as the snow melted. I've had lots of days ice fishing in 60-70 degree weather in March and seen huge flocks of snows and specklebellies way up high riding the south wind all day.

Another interesting thing to me is why individuals of the same species might hang around way up north while others seem to go way south. I know some people see lots of wigeon in areas of Wyoming in December, when at the same time there might be lots of them down in the everglades in south Florida.
 
Yep, we already have a ton of buffies and scaup when guys up north are saying they haven't arrived up there yet!
 
Growing up in the Mississippi flyway in Western Kentucky, the migration always was dependent on four things: the ice/snow line, moon phase, open water and food. During cold winters I have journals that during cold years we would see two distinct peaks. Once in mid December or around the full moon and one at mid to late January as long as we did not have ice around the full moon. There are years I have written down in journals that in late February that we were holding more ducks than regular duck season around Valentine. This still coinciding round the full moon phase and due to years we had considerable ice in January. I firmly believe the two distributions are from the flight down and the staging back. During mild years when the ice line was held north in central Illinois as long as we had good food sources it seems the birds in large numbers stayed all season.

Since 2011 I have lived in Houston, Texas. What I thought in the Mississippi flyway has not always held true with some species of geese and ducks here in the central except weather dependent on sheer numbers. In some of these years I have hunted in temperatures with sweat pouring off my face, smelling of mosquito dope with strong numbers of snow geese, specks, teal that you get tired of seeing, pintails, and etc hunting in flip flops in November. In the actual first four seasons I have hunted, there are some migrations that seems to occur no matter the temperature or not even good north winds. These dependent events of migration always occur on the moon phase of a full moon in late October for some specks, gads, teal, with some groups of scalp and redhead. This process repeats with the same moon phase in November with snows starting to appear within the 4 days before and after the full moon phase. This phase of the moon as it occurs in December brings more birds but the January phase of the full moon every year has seemed in numbers to have the most of all species. Again I believe they are staging/fattening and about to follow the ice line north. In most cases leaving on a south wind flying several hundred miles north daily until they reach the line. Of course water and food in all months seem to be the only variable keeping birds in the area longer even late in season.

Sheer numbers: The only other variable is the factor of northern weather as I stated before. Of the last five seasons two of those years had pushed more birds south. Those years were in the record top 5 coldest in the past decade with both cold weather and heavy snow up north. The great lakes froze over 60% one year and with the other year freezing 89%. The warmer years still brought birds down but not in the same numbers. In fact northern texas, Louisiana and Arkansas seemed to be hotspots during those warm years. I have hunted an average 26 days each of the last four seasons. Most of these numbers I am about to give you are snow geese but includes about 4 to 6 days each year of early teal and extra ducks shot over white spreads. I bit the bullet on the snows goose hunting and is my new found passion outside of layout hunting. I will mix the years up and you tell me which years we had colder winters: 68, 137, 213, and 91. Weather, weather, weather....If they have no reason to leave up north the largest numbers will stay, with some that naturally go without any reason to go except instinct.. I will help you on this year's number: 9 hunts, 24 birds, 17 teal, 3 pintails, 3 snows, and 1 redhead. In the past warm years I was around this same number taking more birds between Christmas and January 24th. In cold years I taken this number in the first hunts of Sept teal season. I do not want you to think I am numbers hunter. Nor get my kicks on piling up the masses. All taken go in my belly. I just enjoy keeping a journal to remember the day and other hunters that were with me as well as all the dramatic and miserable comedic moments that occur. I have not hunted the past three weekends because of the past journal history.

So to answer your question will January weather push birds south? I firmly believe yes. Which this may also be a natural condition you may witness of birds staging south of the ice/snow line.


Regards,
Kristan
 
Good morning, Larry~

....for individual ducks....when they become part of someone's Possession Limit....

More seriously - and from reading these posts - I think it makes a difference if you are in a wintering area and how far north you are. On Long Island - a wintering area and often the "ice line" - "migration" was generally over by late December. Few birds join and few leave after that date. They are there until late March when some (puddlers) start to head back north. Starvation in ard years is testimony to the latter.

All the best,

SJS
 
Sorry, not really trying to rub it in.

I was speaking more to the "calendar" bird migration: some ducks seem to head south around November 1st and go straight to the wintering grounds, no matter what the weather along the flyway.
In recent years, those seemed to be the only birds we had all season, with very little influx after that.
I'm hoping that is not the case this years.
 
Kristan,
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Good record keeping and good thinking.

Like Carl said, I think southern hunters have the benefit of a "non-stop" migration" for some groups of birds but we also depend on severe weather to push a different group of birds down.

Northern hunters have a different perspective on this question. I suspect there are some birds that northern guys never see because they fly right past them.

It's fascinating to learn about our favorite quarry.

Larry
 
We hunt geese in February and March...

Somewhere around March 1 we get a serious influx of geese in our area ( I know they come from the south). The birds will congregate in one or two fields by the tens of thousands... Then after a day or two they disappear. My thinking is that this is a "staging" so to speak. The geese feed heavy for a few days and then bail... When they leave it feels like a ghost town. Roosts are empty and fields of grass can grow again. They have moved north toward breeding grounds.

With each passing year it seems like this mass exodus happens later and later.

I have marked a few neck collars that have moved quite a ways north in those late February to early March days...

To answer the original question. The migration never really stops with our birds... It just shifts direction. But man if u can catch them in one of those "staging" fields it can be an amazing sight to see from the layout blind.
 
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