Is Alabama alone in this?

Steven Alexander

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So, I grew up never realizing other states have a crow "season".

Alabama has no closed season, and no bag limit. I told this to a guy when I was up north last October, and he told me I was wrong, that ALL states had to have seasons for them, because they were a migratory species. That's not true, as we do. I pointed him to our state's season dates and regs. Google's large-language model (what some of yall call "AI") claims that no state has a year-round open season on them also.

Any idea why we are different? Or, better yet, why don't other states allow year-round murdering of murders of crow?



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Alabama does have a season, its Jan 1-Dec 31.
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It was my understanding as well that states had to have a "season" for crows.
Never hunted them in ALabama and never put any thought into it.
Growing up in PA, our season was like Wednesday through Sunday all year round, if I remember correctly. I believe it was the only hunting allowed on Sunday.
 
Somewhere I got the impression AL also allowed shooting redwing blackbirds. I just checked but couldn't find it, but I'm pretty certain at one time in the recent past they were legal to kill.
 
Crows (native) are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. Here's the list from FWS.

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My guess, either Alabama has some special exemption, or the crows in Alabama are non-native.

EDIT: my guess was wrong. Though protected by MBTA, states cam set whatever seasons they wish..
 
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Alabama has two species of crows, American crows and Fish crows.
Fish crows sound like they have a head cold when the caw.
 
I was told, many moons ago. Mexico had no limits on waterfowl. In negotiations with them, we set seasons on crows, in exchange, they would set limits, and seasons on waterfowl. They supposedly like to eat crows there.

Anyhow, this is what I was told. Could be wrong....
 
I think lots of places can hunt crows. NM is strictly no hunting on crows, so ive never really done it but a handful of times I found myself shooting at the black birds. The season where most states have a crow season, we have a reverse migration of protected mexican ravens. Since they are all here at the same time, many would be mistaken and killed. So shooting the black birds here is a big no no. Go to colorado though, and you can have some fun (or used to anyways, not sure about current regulations). Its probably been close to 10 years since ive even looked into crow hunting but the most fun I ever had on a dairy was shooting them over a fox pro with the "fighting crow call" uploaded from their website in that caller. The more you shot and leave lay on the ground, the better it got. At one point, there were literally crows falling out of the skies like basketballs trying to get to the ground when we had about 50ish dead scattered and that call running. It was quite something to watch. I could see why theres a market for crow decoys.
 
I think lots of places can hunt crows. NM is strictly no hunting on crows, so ive never really done it but a handful of times I found myself shooting at the black birds. The season where most states have a crow season, we have a reverse migration of protected mexican ravens. Since they are all here at the same time, many would be mistaken and killed. So shooting the black birds here is a big no no. Go to colorado though, and you can have some fun (or used to anyways, not sure about current regulations). Its probably been close to 10 years since ive even looked into crow hunting but the most fun I ever had on a dairy was shooting them over a fox pro with the "fighting crow call" uploaded from their website in that caller. The more you shot and leave lay on the ground, the better it got. At one point, there were literally crows falling out of the skies like basketballs trying to get to the ground when we had about 50ish dead scattered and that call running. It was quite something to watch. I could see why theres a market for crow decoys.
Crow hunting is a blast. Yes, they will "come in" to an injured crow. But the ones here wise up real fast. If they see another one get shot, you'll never see that crow again. They get hunted/shot around here, and act as such. 😆

I still can't wrap my head around only being able to shoot them certain days. I like that I can shoot them at every available opportunity here.

I bought some flocked Halloween decor ones from maybe Hobby Lobby several years back for near nothing. E-caller helps a lot too. Banded crow is a bucket lister for me. 😁
 
Crow hunting is a blast. Yes, they will "come in" to an injured crow. But the ones here wise up real fast. If they see another one get shot, you'll never see that crow again. They get hunted/shot around here, and act as such. 😆
It was seriously one of the coolest thing I ever watched. Only thing close was when spinners first came out for waterfowl and watching mallard fall out of the sky to those spinners that first year was unbelievable. Now, I dont even set one out to hunt fowl. Water motion is far more important to me that wing flaps.
I still can't wrap my head around only being able to shoot them certain days. I like that I can shoot them at every available opportunity here.
Only thing that we have like that around here is collard dove, coyotes and carp. I say carp because I went down that rabbit hole for a year or two of bowfishing carp. What a blast that can be.
I bought some flocked Halloween decor ones from maybe Hobby Lobby several years back for near nothing. E-caller helps a lot too. Banded crow is a bucket lister for me. 😁
Ya I think certain species, you could throw black or gray plates out and they will decoy. Pigeons are just as dumb. I would set out a dozen soar no more pigeon decoys and just leave them lay as I shot them. The more shot, the better it got. Just needed that first dozen to get them to start decoying. I shot literally 10's of thousands of pigeons in my younger years. Have in the neighborhood of 120ish pigeon bands on its own lanyard hanging in the office. Just a novelty thing I suppose. When I was young and dumb and ran on social media, the pigeon deal got me more street cred than anything else lol. It was such a great way to tune up dogs before a waterfowl season. I had tons of fun with that. Also, when the labs get too old to hunt waterfowl, it was always fun to take them out and let them retrieve a few and see that inner love come out of them again when they could go make a super easy retrieve. Thats probably the only thing I miss about all this.

Found some pics of those crow hunts. They are dated 2013. So 12 years ago was the last time I even really looked into the crow stuff. Dont mind the saiga lmao. We were messing around with some things, and at one point got it figured out how to run one as a snow goose gun. It was convenient to just run a new magazine of shells and reload magazines in between flocks of snows. End of the day, an extended mag tube still easier. Oh the stupidity... but gosh it was fun.
 

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I love a good pigeon shoot. I shot a banded one in October. Someone's racing pigeon, no doubt.
If it was shot in october, good chance it was wild by then. I would shoot a ton between june-August and that is when the guys who raised them really started to thin the herd and get them out of the coup. I did a lot of research on that deal, because I was killing 20-30 a summer and started to feel kind of bad about that. If this was someones prized possessions, I didnt want to be just out killing them. Plus, I got to the point, I could call them out of flocks, they are a much different animal. Fly much smoother, wing beat is much different, longer necks in flight as well. This sounds weird to say, but they just look cleaner as well. I told that to a guy and he started saying he was shooting the "clean birds" out of flocks, and he really started to collect quite a nice collection of pigeon bands. So I figured if I could leave them be, i would, but I also figured if it was a good racer, it wouldnt be mixed in with dairy pigeons that came in from the closest city. You could literally watch hundreds come from the city to this dairy. It was truly overrun, but I had to know what the deal was behind these pigeons with leg bands.

So what I figured out is most coups will hatch their new birds in February/March. Generally they are training by mid April. By June the handlers know which ones are getting kicked and which ones are being taken to races. 80% of birds dont get to stay in the coup, according to the local old man that I spoke to from around here. So I no longer felt bad anymore. There were some days, like 4th of July, when we hunted one year and it was obvious it was a race day. We killed 7 and all were double banded with the magnet detachable band on their legs. The magnet records a time when the bird goes through the door on their coup to record when they made it home. Sometimes the birds beat the handler home after they are released from their starting location, so its a way to record how fast the bird made it back from the race. I only hunted that one 4th of july and never again because i didnt feel right killing birds who might actively be in a race. Also, that day, they were all older birds. None killed that day were that years color band. Theres a rotation of 5 colors (white, yellow, blue, green, and red). So I would look up what the color was for each year, and then I would know if i was killing babies or older birds. The year is stamped on all the bands as well, but I still would look it up because some handlers would get custom colors done for that year and go against the standard color for that year. The oldest pigeon I ever killed was 17 years old. Since bands are sealed and they have to go on as chics, its safe to say that bird was truly that age.

Then there were show birds that got out of coups and we killed every so often. those would have odd colors sometimes or mini bands/zip ties. But the coolest two I ever killed were tumbler pigeons. They would do backflips mid air down into the decoys. Just literally be flying one second and then just look like they were tumbling out of the sky and then about 8 feet above ground they would put their wings out and glide down into the decoys. I did kill an old bird one time that had 5 leg bands. I couldnt figure that one out. only thing i could thing was the handler put that many on its legs to mimic a GPS band and the weight of it. no idea there, but it had a white band and 4 green bands, 3 of which were aluminum.
 
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