"bigger boat"

Steve

Thanks for taking the time to post the welds.

The tig weld is the best looking (your statement)

The pulse weld is the fastest to do (your statement)

Is one stronger than the other? Does one last longer without problems?

I know there were some statements about the appearance of some welds but if it works, last and puts the cost of the boat in my budget, do looks matter that much. I mean if a woman cooks, cleans and does "her duty" how critical do we have a right to be? Just a joke...hopefully someone gets a laugh out of it.
 
I am writing this in response to the DW boat at the Harrisburg show. I own the boat. It was delivered on time exactly the way I ordered it. I have been a Master Tool and Dye maker for 40 years, currently most of my work is making parts for Virginia class submarines. The specs on nuclear class subs are very strict. The welds on the assembled valves are not ground off. But they are hydro tested for leaks, and I have to sign them off. In retrospect I feel this qualifies me to tell you the welds on this boat would meet these specs. If any one in the area would like to see for yourself let me know. On closing note I have already had the boat out and had not one issue. Good luck in any boat you buy.
 
Tod, Not all of us have the advantage of time available for hunts such as yours this past season.I did enjoy following your posts and pictures and respect your opinions but To say that "you dont think a whole lot" of me because I would like to experience some of those areas with very limited time by useing a guide is rediculous. Are you questioning my abilities as a hunter , as someone who has tought my children to respect the game and the persuit of it. Who has given back by introducing people, who without my help would have never had the opportunities to hunt Deer, turkey and waterfowl. "Overly romantic" I think not!!
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Charlie, you specifically asked for a response from me, I'll respect that with an answer. First, I doubt that you would need a guide to get on birds there. Anyone who is successful hunting in New England can put themselves on birds in ND (if the birds are there), no questioning of your abilities.

I however think that if you choose to use a guide there you have decreased the potential for those that want to freelance and residents. Every action we have has a consequence, create a demand for guides in a state with few guides and ND ends up like Arkansas. Pay to play may be fine for you, but it isn't for everyone.

Like I said, a romantic notion perhaps, ND will be leased out at some point.
 
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Charlie,

Thanks for the kind response. We are donating this boat to the Waterfowl Boot Camp event to be held in July in Ohio. We are on course to have over 50 vendors at the event. This boat will be raffled off Nationwide prior to the event. There will be decoys, duck calls, etc... raffled with the sneak. I will keep everyone posted on the raffle. I think that the raffle tickets will be a $20 donation which will benefit the O.W.A.

The sneak boat is 11' long and 48" at the widest point. The cockpit is 62" x 28" and 18" deep. We built the pods on to be able to support up to a 7 h.p. motor without being motor heavy. Here are a couple of photos of the new Sneak boat. I am thinking we will call this the Back Water 11.


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I am not sure which different forums will be hosting the raffle. You can google Waterfowl Boot Camp and go to the website for vendor information.

Best of Gunning,

Steve H.
 
Steve,
love the paint job. I might just have to purchase one of those for the shallow marshes we hunt. Do you think there will be some extra room in my 23', with the other suprise that you are building?????

Steve K
 
My original point was that I didn’t think the poster was spamming and I wasn’t inspired to hunt with him, but qualified it by saying I didn’t have respect for him for other reasons. You could also take it that though I don’t respect his operation I still didn’t think he was spamming.

I will never hide from my distain of guides and outfitters that run operations in ND or my overall disproval of leases and guides in our sport. Matt could explain a lot more of the deterioration of hunting throughout regions of ND where guides have taken a hold and the list of violations they have incured. Fact is they are not needed in ND for any reason, the negatives they create on locals and freelancer is justification alone

You can easily fly in, rent a car and go. If you want decoys? Ship a dozen or less and pick them up when you get there or buy a few decoys when you get there and give them to a youngster in a small town when you’re leaving. Not only will you make a kid happy, you might even strike a long-term relationship that leads to housing and hunting access. No matter what the cost is less than paying a guide.

Majority of my hunting this year was with 9 decoys where I shot cans, redheads, pintails, ringnecks, teal and widgeon. I limited out on puddle ducks two days where I did not use one decoy, just found the right spots. For most places I walked no further than 200 yards and was hunting on public land.
The discussion regarding guides in ND and the list of their problems they create could go on for days. Fact is most who have hunted there know that and will discourage the use of a guide at all costs. It is truly a special place and most of us hope and do their best to continue that. I am more than happy to help anyone who is thinking about a trip, as long as you going for the right reasons and doing it in a way that is best for the states hunters and game.
 
Mike,

I did get a nice laugh from your last post!

The pulse weld and the tig weld is equal to each other in strength and longevity.

There was another comment of our "rinky dink" rigs. I thought I would show you are stringer system.


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Thanks for starting this thread, and I hope this has helped to provide you with information. This site has been a factual and informative site for a number of years.

Best of gunning,

Steve H.
 
Scotty,

I only went there once, back in '03 (with BJ), but you have to picture this. ND, outside of the cities, is divided into sections, each section being 1 mile by 1 mile. Unlike here in CT, where they'll post every friggin' tree, in ND they only post the corners of the property. You see a posted sign, drive a mile down the dirt road, and at the next intersection you see the second posted sign and you look across the crossing dirt road and you see posted signs at the corners of the next two sections. The names on the posted signs are all of the same outfitter. Make a right turn, left turn, or go straight.....same thing. All posted, all the same outfitter. Want to hunt it? Pony up a couple hundred bucks per gun. Scouting around you see a field with 5,000 mallards in it. Posted. Find the corner with the posted sign, maybe there's a phone number and you call to get permission.......yeah you can hunt it.....for a couple hundred bucks per gun.......or you just told the guy where to bring his clients the next morning. Look at the zone map of ND, You have zones 1&2, smack in the center of the ND pothole region, then you have zone 3 which takes up the other 85 percent of the entire state. You have to be brain dead to not know where to concentrate you waterfowling efforts. Take that 15% and then most of that is all under lease by outfitters. That there is the problem. If I'm recalling correctly, the area around Streeter is a waste of time to try to hunt because it's close to 100% leased out by outfitters. We are talking not thousand of acres, or tens of thousands of acres, but maybe like 100,000 acres, an unimaginable area by CT standards where our largest WMA is a fraction of that size. Yes, we found areas to hunt, but it was a lot of work and a lot of driving.
 
I think it was around 26hrs each way.........we snoozed in a rest area for a few hours........(It's worth it)
 
First let me say that I had the priviledge of hunting with Scott this season and he runs a first rate service. I've been aboard more different types of boats than I care to remember and his boat was very comfortable dry and handled seas well. I'm not promoting any boat or service but will openly say good boat and well done. While the BBSB type boat is surely the best option for solo hunters in fairly protected waters, and surely look more "ducky", bigger boats do have their place too.
Just my observation,
Harry
 
Steve thanks for posting the picture of the welds. A picture is worth a thousand words. Beats the he said this or I had a friend who had a friend who said this or that. From what i see those are as good a welds as your ever going to see on an aluminum boat. Very nice work. Love the paint job!
 
GUYS...JUST BE GLAD HOOVER DOES NOT POST HIS PICTURE UP HERE...ONE..UGLY..DUDE..






But the boats look good!!! Like the new sneak box!! Nice paint job!!

 
Over 6,100 views on this thread.....wow.

Steve you have me about 99% sold on that Back water 11. This boat is awesome!!!! Can you post some pics of the inside? I'm thinking about selling my BBSB. I like the idea of metal over wood due to the maintenence issue.

Spoke to Paul Rutledge today. You have one happy customer with him. He loves his boat.
 
Mike,
I was told that you have been awaiting some interior shots of the Backwater 11'. Here you go.

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Steve
Does anyone have this boat over by me in Nj? I'd like to see it in person but I really like what I see.
 
Mike,

This is the first boat that we built just last week. I am sure that soon we will have these boats over by you. Give Paul a call and talk him into the Back Water 11. You are correct that he loves his Bay 18. Paul runs a top knotch guide sevice in Jersey. Everyone can see his logo and contact information at our website under the guides menu.

Best of gunning,

Steve H.
 
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