Devlin bluebill build thread.

For your hardware you will want to use scrap 3/4 material to build in backing plates to spread the load out.

I used a two bolt bow eye since I was worried about it spinning and then not being able to tighten it back up once it was sealed in the forward floatation chamber. I installed my bow eye in the bow plate on the nose as shown in the plans for the BBIII. I do not recommend this as it resulted in trailer tie down issues later on. The trailer I bought did not allow for a wide selection of positions of the bow eye and the winch. It took several adjustments of the winch and bow support struts to figure out that the real problem was the location of the bow eye. I recommend installing it down low on the keel. That makes the boat tow cleaner on the water, and presents a better angle for the trailer winch and bow strut for trailering.

My stern handles and cleats are attached using huge bronze screws into doubled up backing plates. In each stern pod I installed a top support stringer under the deck skin just like in the bow section. At the time of my BBIII build (2003) I was pretty heavy and wanted to make sure that the front deck was over built so there is a wide center stringer for supporting the deck and attaching a cleat as called for in the plans. Then I have two narrow side stringers over the forward storage area. All my stringers are made from doubled up 3/8 scrap material left over from the hull sheets, and some are just 3/4 scrap. All hardware is sealed with 3M 5200.

Make sure you cut a drain hole in the forward storage compartment bulkhead where the joint for the keel is. My BBIII plans did not call for this and it is a huge mistake IMO. Hard to fix after the boat is built. I am always having to sponge out water from the storage area.

I used simple ABS pipe fitting floor drain caps to cover up the limber holes in the floor. It keeps most of the muck and all the shell casings out of the bilge. I used a 10 x 12 plastic deck fitting over the stern bilge access hatch. The only issue I have with my bilge is that my floor is not very tall and I can not install a bilge pump as they are all too tall to fit under the floor. I can use a small 12v well pump but I have yet to get that installed.

The center floor support was made out of scrap 3/8 material (about 6 layers just under 2" wide) laminated with epoxy and then hand fitted to the shape of the keel joint.

I installed my floor with a 1/8" gap at the stern to allow for water to quickly drain into the bilge. There is also a gap between the forward bulkhead and the floor to allow for water to enter the bilge. These gaps are mainly for winter storage to prevent water from accumulating on the floor and building up ice, but they also allow for simple drainage when trailering home.

Back in 2003 there were builders commenting on how their knees had come detached from the decks. The consensous was that the connection had too little surface area. I installed scrap 3/4 material as a doubler at the tops of each knee to increase the surface area in contact with the deck material and then made large fillets around those. The bottoms of the knees end up glass taped and filletted in, but the tops don't unless you like taping and glassing upside down.

Wow, thanks for the info, I weigh right around 3 bills so there is a lot of good ideas there for me. Moving the bow eye down makes sense. The forward eye would only work on a Jon type trailer with the flat board as a stop. I will use scrap to make the supports and the backing plates.


I am glad to finally be in the really fun part of the build.
 
Paul, one of the things I forgot in my long post was that when you start building all this support stuff into your hull you will need to draw out a plan with measurements to find it all again once decked over.
 
Got some work done this weekend, got the whole flotation bulkhead and compartment filleted, and taped, and also taped the long run where the sides meet the bottom. I am going to tape the keel and then remove my forward bulkhead, "hollow" it out so I can store crap up there, and then finish taping that bulkhead and all of the motor well compenents this week. Here are some pics of the front compartment. I got much better at the process (and being ready before starting) as I did more and more joints.

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Hopefully more updates by this weekend. I haven't been working on it as much as I'd like, but I shouldn't have any issues finishing the taping and interior resin coats this week.
 
Paul~

The nice work continues!

Forgive me if I mentioned this earlier, but I am wondering if you will be putting inspection ports in your floatation bulkheads? I hate to not have access - for backing up hardware, lights, thatch rails, etc. This is a 6-inch Beckson:

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Of course, it's easiest to cut that nice round hole on the bench before installation of the bulkhead.....sorry!

All the best,

SJS
 
One of the great things about building a boat is, just about the time you get really tired of doing something, you get to move on to something else - welcome to the wonderful and amazing world of epoxy. Nice job.
 
Steve,


Is that General Electric silicon sealer your using in the photo of your hatch? If so how does it stack it up to 3M 5200? Nobody in my area stocks 3M except in small packaged tubes and then they want $18 bucks for it. That's ridicules. As good as the 3M products are there has to be a more economical solution that the DIY stores stock. I bought some stuff this weekend called Excello white sealer but I haven't used it yet. I want to put down a barrier that will stay semi pliable between my aluminum boat floor and the aluminum ribs that will hopefully cut down noise and shifting of the floor against the rivets.
 
Ed~

I used the GE Silicon because a) I had some on hand for a bathroom project and b) I did not NEED 3M 5200. The Silicon simply needs to act as a sealer/caulk - the screws hold the plate in place. For your purpose, it sounds like you need an adhesive caulk. I have found nothing that compares to 5200 - however, it may be that PL or some other company offers a non-marine product that may meet your needs. It may be worth a call/e-mail to a technical advisor.

3M 5200 is expensive - so I use it judiciously and mail-order my supply as needed. I generally buy from Jamestown Distributors or Hamilton Marine. The White 10 oz cartridges are commonly on sale.

Hope this helps,

SJS
 
I have gotten a lot of taping and filleting done, I am trying not to go over the top and make myself hate the project. The transom and the starboard sponson are filleted and taped, as well as the front flotation compartment and the long runs in the main compartment. I will have help today with mixing the resin and pb up after church, so I will not be surprised if I get everything but the port sponson taped. Stopping and mixing more goop up is the most time consuming part.

That selvage is heck for making air bubbles.
 
Here are some taping pics, as well as a picture of an old rotted gt150 I acquired with a free trailer, the bond boat is now gone, but the trailer is ready for a little elbow grease and a lot of use now. I did start sanding some of my joints to smooth the edges a bit.

Hull/chine
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Sponson (poor lighting)
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An interestingly tight area for glassing. Sponson
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Transom
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Front bulkhead hollowed out, needs some finish work before I epoxy it into place.
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The old turd. Neat boat, guy who picked it up was pretty excited
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A few more pics, did the fillet and tape on the bottom of the remaining pod/sponson and did the main stretch of the keel.

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Still need to do the vertical joints in this pod

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Look'in good Paul. Very clean application of epoxy.

Thanks man, pictures are deceiving! The slowest part is mixing more pb up, takes forever. I'm excited to flip it and get the glassing of the hull.

Do you guys tape the joints on the outside? I was planning on doing so.
 
Yes, I taped the outside also. When doing the outside use your roller so you don't get too much epoxy on your cloth. It also helps getting an even coat.
 
Did you just use one layer of tape or did you do three like on the inside joints? I am getting close to that now. All I have to tape/pb is the area I between the floatation and forward cockpit bulkhead.
 
Did you just use one layer of tape or did you do three like on the inside joints? I am getting close to that now. All I have to tape/pb is the area I between the floatation and forward cockpit bulkhead.


I would do 2 layers on the bottom rather than tape then a layer. First one just up and over the chines by 3 inches and the second up to the sheer. I generally feel that Devlin's schedules for glass (one layer 6 ounce) on the outside are light, especially for the bottom. There are plenty of folks that think one layer of 6 ounce is fine for their use. For a small boat that you are likely to beach anywhere around rocks, I'd go heavier (but I'd also go heavier for a larger boat too).

Do the layers wet on tacky, use a squeegee to remove as much epoxy as possible to have the highest weight to strength ratio and to keep the glass from floating up off the wood. The procedure would be to put the first layer on and letting it set up a bit and then putting the second layer on top, let it set up and fill the weave. You generally want to get your glass on and filled without sanding. I'd do it all on one day (easy), but you could do it with an overnight in there and get on it the next morning. Lot of folks let the epoxy in the glass cure without topcoating to fill the weave and let the epoxy set up and need to sand - this is a mistake in my opinion (lot more sanding, worse bond, and you are abrading the glass to give it tooth - all around more work and may result in a slightly less quailty product).

Very easy, lot of folks stress about it (I don't know why), but it is one of the easiest steps in the build.
 
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Got the storage compartment chine/keel joints done tonight. Just. The front bulkhead of the cockpit to tape in now, going to borrow a router and round over bit to make the inside edges nice first.


I plan on rolling the epoxy (2 or 3 coats?) On the inside before flipping it. Is this the best way to go?
 
Also, devlin uses fir for the sheer clamps and the keel, is there a trick to finding some in decent grade?
 
Paul~

Vertical grain fir is often available in better lumber yards - for stair treads and flooring. Expensive - but good clear lumber always is.

All the best,

SJS
 
You'll need to do it eventually so now is as good a time as any. Once you get the outside of the hull done you will be flipping it back upright again for the deck, floor, and other stuff, fittings, etc. so the inside epoxy could wait if you want to.
 
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