Gheenoe repair help.

[Troy oliver]

I'm new to the community, and I recently bought a gheenoe with some damage and the merc 9.9 don't run. I got out for 600 with a Lil trailer. I'm happy with the purchase. I was just wondering if anyone out there could choose me on what materials I should get and basically what to do in general as this will be my first ever attempt at anything like this. Any thing helps. Thanks ,
Troy from homestead

 

[roy brewington]

If your just trying to fill holes someone cut mask back side with a sturdy tape. Gorilla tape possibly . First off sand a good distance out around perimeter . Start laying in saturated mating to build up layers extending first couple out onto sanded perimeter. That seat cut out is your flotation in a Ghenooe. The center seat/live well they removed provides strength to hull bottom & sides. Take a look at unmodified hull and you'll get an idea of design. Center seat /live well is built over a mold then glassed in at sides and bottom to hull. I,ve done a bit of glass repair on my Ghenooe thru the years and used just the available mat and Epoxy resin available in Walmart Automotive section. You could get fancier but really not needed. While your glassing check your center keel on bottom for cracking. Good time to reinforce the length of it as they tend to get a lot of wear there. Another way to fill void for glassing particularly on the large area is insert an appropriated sized section of resin soaked 1/4" plywood as a backer and affix . Then build your mat up on top that overlapping onto sanded area first couple layers. Assuming that's a 13' or is it a 15'? Good little boats in the right place and float on a heavy dew! I,m sure there's more skilled Fiberglass applicators on here then myself so stay tuned you'll surely get other ways of fixing it.

 

[Kim Ross]

If your just trying to fill holes someone cut mask back side with a sturdy tape. Gorilla tape possibly . First off sand a good distance out around perimeter . Start laying in saturated mating to build up layers extending first couple out onto sanded perimeter. That seat cut out is your flotation in a Ghenooe. The center seat/live well they removed provides strength to hull bottom & sides. Take a look at unmodified hull and you'll get an idea of design. Center seat /live well is built over a mold then glassed in at sides and bottom to hull. I,ve done a bit of glass repair on my Ghenooe thru the years and used just the available mat and Epoxy resin available in Walmart Automotive section. You could get fancier but really not needed. While your glassing check your center keel on bottom for cracking. Good time to reinforce the length of it as they tend to get a lot of wear there. Another way to fill void for glassing particularly on the large area is insert an appropriated sized section of resin soaked 1/4" plywood as a backer and affix . Then build your mat up on top that overlapping onto sanded area first couple layers. Assuming that's a 13' or is it a 15'? Good little boats in the right place and float on a heavy dew! I,m sure there's more skilled Fiberglass applicators on here then myself so stay tuned you'll surely get other ways of fixing it.

All good suggestions. i refurbed mine but only had to deal with popped bubbles in gelcoat on hull chines. FYI there is "Gheenoe Owners Group" on Facebook where you may find other examples of fixups and repairs.

 

[Capt Rich Geminski]

Call the maker and ask what material the boat was constructed with...

 

[Eric Patterson]

You are going to need...

Standard Epoxy Kits - Raka Inc

Raka Inc provides high-quality marine epoxy resins, fiberglass, and boat building supplies. Trusted epoxy manufacturer since 1991 with worldwide delivery and expert technical support.

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and a bunch of stuff from this too

View Our Catalog Before Purchasing - Raka Inc.

Browse the Catalog of Epoxy and Fiberglass Cloth to know what we offer and check the collection

raka.com

I can't tell if the butchered sections are structural or cosmetic... From the hip my approach would be to epoxy lay-up cloth into rectangular sections, on the bench, of similar thickness to what is missing and let it cure. Then I'd trace the needed shapes onto that, cut them out, and glass them in. But I'm not there to see what is really going on.

 

[Kris Schaumburg]

You should also look at microskiff. Specifically the bragging section. They redo these all the time

 

[roy brewington]

When your done with your glass work don't go back to blind fasteners for your seat mounts. That is what factory uses but over time they will wear into glass from underside and pull thru against hard weight. My rear seat almost pitched me overboard one cold morning when I lost balance and leaned against it hard to stop fall. I bent a piece of 1/8" thick aluminum rd. sign after that that fits over seat like a saddle . Stainless screwed that to face and rear surface of seat bx. Mounting for my removable seat bracket goes thru aluminum & is stainless 1/4" bolts and loc nuts and bolt ends drop in to old blind nut holes. Can throw my full weight against seat now with no issues.

 

[Jeff Reardon]

A key starting question is whether you are doing this repair with glass cloth or fiberglass matting. Another is what kind of resin you will use--epoxy, polyester, or maybe other choices. I've only ever worked with glass cloth and epoxy. I'd definitely check with the manufacturer on what kind of resin this was built with. You want to use the same stuff for your patches, if possible.

 

[TedSC]

Those are great little boats. Looks like 13 foot gheenoe they are fishing machines. Doing fiberglass work is not too hard but it is a learning curve and it helps to work with someone that has experience. It took me a few years working with someone to get comfortable. If you know someone it makes the learning so much easier. What part of the country are you from?

 

[Troy oliver]

Those are great little boats. Looks like 13 foot gheenoe they are fishing machines. Doing fiberglass work is not too hard but it is a learning curve and it helps to work with someone that has experience. It took me a few years working with someone to get comfortable. If you know someone it makes the learning so much easier. What part of the country are you from?

I'm from miami Florida. And unfortunately I really don't know anyone who knows how to do stuff like this. Ima you tube it and hope for the best. I'm a quick learner. And I'm amazed at all the help I'm getting from this community. Everyone is awesome.

 

[Troy oliver]

A key starting question is whether you are doing this repair with glass cloth or fiberglass matting. Another is what kind of resin you will use--epoxy, polyester, or maybe other choices. I've only ever worked with glass cloth and epoxy. I'd definitely check with the manufacturer on what kind of resin this was built with. You want to use the same stuff for your patches, if possible.

Thanks for your response. That is exactly why I'm posting bcs my funds are extremely limited and I want to only buy what is necessary.

 

[Troy oliver]

You should also look at microskiff. Specifically the bragging section. They redo these all the time

Thanks, I will check em out.

 

[Troy oliver]

You are going to need...

Standard Epoxy Kits - Raka Inc

Raka Inc provides high-quality marine epoxy resins, fiberglass, and boat building supplies. Trusted epoxy manufacturer since 1991 with worldwide delivery and expert technical support.

raka.com

and a bunch of stuff from this too

View Our Catalog Before Purchasing - Raka Inc.

Browse the Catalog of Epoxy and Fiberglass Cloth to know what we offer and check the collection

raka.com

I can't tell if the butchered sections are structural or cosmetic... From the hip my approach would be to epoxy lay-up cloth into rectangular sections, on the bench, of similar thickness to what is missing and let it cure. Then I'd trace the needed shapes onto that, cut them out, and glass them in. But I'm not there to see what is really going on.

It's definitely a little structural. The seats all bend and have cracks and major holes. And the center where they seemed to use bondo or something similar. Flexes a bit when you walk on it. Thanks for all the help I can't believe how awesome tips community is. I can't thank you enough. I'm down in homestead right before the keys and I really don't know anyone.

 

[Troy oliver]

If your just trying to fill holes someone cut mask back side with a sturdy tape. Gorilla tape possibly . First off sand a good distance out around perimeter . Start laying in saturated mating to build up layers extending first couple out onto sanded perimeter. That seat cut out is your flotation in a Ghenooe. The center seat/live well they removed provides strength to hull bottom & sides. Take a look at unmodified hull and you'll get an idea of design. Center seat /live well is built over a mold then glassed in at sides and bottom to hull. I,ve done a bit of glass repair on my Ghenooe thru the years and used just the available mat and Epoxy resin available in Walmart Automotive section. You could get fancier but really not needed. While your glassing check your center keel on bottom for cracking. Good time to reinforce the length of it as they tend to get a lot of wear there. Another way to fill void for glassing particularly on the large area is insert an appropriated sized section of resin soaked 1/4" plywood as a backer and affix . Then build your mat up on top that overlapping onto sanded area first couple layers. Assuming that's a 13' or is it a 15'? Good little boats in the right place and float on a heavy dew! I,m sure there's more skilled Fiberglass applicators on here then myself so stay tuned you'll surely get other ways of fixing it.

Thank you so much for all the advice I'm eternally grateful.

 

[Troy oliver]

I'm going to post my Amazon midi so far can yall tell me if I'm on the right track.

 

[Troy oliver]

My last issue is where I'm doing the work there is no electricity so I gotta get tools with batteries. I didn't realize that when I was told I could keep it in this little warehouse. Definitely not complaining though. He just wants my next slot snook as payment.

 

[Troy oliver]

If your just trying to fill holes someone cut mask back side with a sturdy tape. Gorilla tape possibly . First off sand a good distance out around perimeter . Start laying in saturated mating to build up layers extending first couple out onto sanded perimeter. That seat cut out is your flotation in a Ghenooe. The center seat/live well they removed provides strength to hull bottom & sides. Take a look at unmodified hull and you'll get an idea of design. Center seat /live well is built over a mold then glassed in at sides and bottom to hull. I,ve done a bit of glass repair on my Ghenooe thru the years and used just the available mat and Epoxy resin available in Walmart Automotive section. You could get fancier but really not needed. While your glassing check your center keel on bottom for cracking. Good time to reinforce the length of it as they tend to get a lot of wear there. Another way to fill void for glassing particularly on the large area is insert an appropriated sized section of resin soaked 1/4" plywood as a backer and affix . Then build your mat up on top that overlapping onto sanded area first couple layers. Assuming that's a 13' or is it a 15'? Good little boats in the right place and float on a heavy dew! I,m sure there's more skilled Fiberglass applicators on here then myself so stay tuned you'll surely get other ways of fixing.

Thanks for your response. That is exactly why I'm posting bcs my funds are extremely limited and I want to only buy what is necessary.

 

[Huntindave McCann]

I can't tell if the butchered sections are structural or cosmetic...

Absolutely structural as well as the safety factor. Structural comprising is evident.

It's definitely a little structural. The seats all bend and have cracks and major holes. And the center where they seemed to use bondo or something similar. Flexes a bit when you walk on it. T

I'd go over the entire hull inspecting for "minor" cracks. If not addressed those will quickly become more than minor. No sense spending money on this hull, thinking everything is corrected, yet needing to go back in again with more time and money.

Another way to fill void for glassing particularly on the large area is insert an appropriated sized section of resin soaked 1/4" plywood as a backer and affix .

 

[Carl]

"He just wants my next slot snook as payment."

After this freeze, that might be tricky! Y'all seeing a die-off? I hear scattered reports around Tampa and south, in the shallow canals.

 

[Jeff Reardon]

"He just wants my next slot snook as payment."

After this freeze, that might be tricky! Y'all seeing a die-off? I hear scattered reports around Tampa and south, in the shallow canals.

I see stories about picking up dropping iguanas. Hoping the Everglades pythons are taking a hit, too.